Chapter VII

1. CLASSIFICATION OF LEGAL ISSUES (Sangahitakatha)

Rate debate : The unclassifiable approach by abstract notions.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Rajagirikas  and  Siddhatthikas.

(1)  Theravadins : - But he did not deny there may coordinate measures or included with other measures as a general concept. So, can he deny there may be legal can not be classified?

(2) As of origin, labels of origin, ear origin ... Made relatives.

(3) And their subjects as he admits, is graded aggregate.

(4) Feeling optimistic, suffering and non-suffering non-communication is classified into Life aggregates.

(5) Ideas born from the formula (Active mode), and consciousness are classified into Chiang aggregates.

(6) Consulting ( Cetana ) born from the operating mode is classified into aggregates.

(7) being the Wake Center is classified into consciousness.

From here by the recognition of the above, he must recognize that the law can be graded.

(8) RS: - So, he has to understand that these measures are classified together like oxen column cases together by ropes or yoke, coat bowl tied by rope or dog is tied by chain it?

Th: - Yes, and from here it can be said that the measures could have been graded with the others. (1)

2. ISSUES OF FRANCE respectively (Samayuttakatha)

Rate debate : Ownership interest corresponds not mind owning the other.  (2)

According to Note : This view of the sect also  Rajagirikas  and  Siddhatthika s.

(1) Th: - But is he does not deny that there are measures that arises, and kill, and base, and at the scene with the others? So, why is the appropriate exception of those measures together?

(2) For example, the aggregates can coexist with the other aggregates as aggregates with Chiang Tho karmic formations, Soul Aggregates v ..v. Such an approach could certainly corresponds to the other.

RS: - Is He understands that is mixed in sesame oil, sugar cane sweetness is decent in how they are coordinating legal entity, corresponds to such other measures?

Th: - No, can not say that about.

3. PROPERTY ISSUES FOCUS (Cetasikakatha)

Rate debate : Ownership interest does not exist.

In Note : Again, seconded  Rajagirikas  and  Siddhatthikas  the notion that no such measures are cetasika  (cetasika ) born from the mind  (Citta)  , as well as emotional state "from exposure" and no such legal the ownership interest arises together with the mind. Phai  Theravadins  admit that there is no mistake that "emotional state" depending on exposure, as well as "ownership interest" depending on Mind  (citta-nissitako).

(1)  Theravadins : - Is He did not deny there arises the state nomenclature, and kill, and apartments, and Peer to mind? So why ownership interest is not present?

(2) For example: As exposure arises together with the mind, that's the main contact by a state, is possessed of mind. Likewise with Feeling, Perception, Will, Trust, Need, mindfulness, concentration and wisdom ... All are owned center.

(3) RS: - Thus, any legal recognition he arises to mind is the mind possesses. Is He also admitted that arises with the contact method is exposed property, or any other method of legal ownership is not such measures arises with property distractions are distractions.

Th: - Definitely so.

(4) And if he has no legal certification has been called "ownership interest" does Buddha have urged that:

"The mind and heart remained true ownership
For legal people find selfless
He comprehended both gross and subtle approach".

With the right understanding havoc they understand the objective in life?

(5) Again, Is Exalted have urged that "Hey Kevatta, in law and this, one can speak bhikkhus (speak) the mind and possesses the mind, how to think, to reflect the others and declared his mind like this, his mind like that, like the other "?  (1)

From here certainly has a law known as: "Ownership interest" that.  (2)

4. ISSUES alms (Danakatha)

Rate debate : Giving ( dāna ) is owned center.

According to Note : The word "generosity" is understood in three senses: (1) Giving by intellectual belief (2) is the fearless father by the precept (3) Disposition of material resources. But the sect Rajagirikas  and  Siddhatthikas  alms concept is only the first form, this argument makes it clear misunderstanding.

(1) Th: - If Bell is a public property can bring attention to other people interested in owning it? If he refused, his conception can not stand. If he agrees, he implies that any property yet can also bring attention to other people, such as contact, feeling, perception, Investment, Loan, Need, mindfulness, concentration and wisdom ...

(2) RS: - If we are wrong, we would like to ask him: Are there effective arrangements impossible love, joy impossible, impossible not lost and suffering? Or is the opposite true? Thus, make sure that generosity is an ownership interest.

(3) Th: - Admittedly, the generosity with endearing results, the possibility happy, pleasurable, as Buddha has declared, is the clothing donations, as the food, and medicine is clinical cure is not charity? He acknowledged that, but he can not accept that the outcome of this character endearing hospitality, availability happy, pleasurable ...

(4) RS: - If we are wrong, let us cite the teachings of the Buddha:

"Trust is good experimental center.
The facility needs improvement approach
called natural religion Sugar,
Sugar goes Empyrean"

(5) Again, "O Bhikkhus, there are 5 great charity called pilot, is supreme, honorable, not to be confused in the present or the past, do not confuse people with others, between beings with other living beings and the knowledge wise, ascetic, Brahmin irreproachable. what is the year? First, there is A disciple saints renounce killing, avoid killing, he until all beings infinite safety, not the adversity, with the boundless generosity to yourself to this saint for wellbeing, not adversity, compassionate loving kindness. second, the saint's A disciple does not give up taking away from taking what is not given ... sexual misconduct .... lying in the ... drink ... Hey monks. I say later, he give to all beings with boundless compassion. in such alms, he became the main contributor in the immeasurable joy, boundless compassion. all these things is the company of the year ".  (1)

If the text is saying so, is a property giving hearts.

(6) Th: - According to him, giving is not a law to bring to others. But is Exalted've theory that "As a man to another man rice, water, clothing, fabrics, car boat, fragrant plants, medicines, lotions, berth, shelter, light"  ( 2)  . So, definitely is a legal alms can give it.

(7) RS: - He said that is a legal alms can give. Now he does not admit that a law was given, there are the direct result of those accusations, the possibility happy, pleasurable, happy.

On the other hand Buddha has declared that; are giving such good results. And he said that clothing, as the food and medicine to cure ... is almsgiving. Here it means that the things that have so this result could not have been. So to say that generosity is a property interest is a mistake.

5. ISSUES ENJOYMENT merit (Paribhogamayapunnakatha)

Rate Debate:  - Merit growth depending on how tenure.

According to Note:  Some sects like  Rajagirikas, Siddhattikas , and  Sammitiyas  that have legal merit as growth depends on how tenure. This concept stems from a misunderstanding of the passages as: "Merit is always growing by day and night" and "Bhikshus with this costume, monks feel satisfied when life use ... "

(1) Th: - With this conception, he implies that the Promotion, Feeling, Perception, Will, Trust, Need, mindfulness, concentration and wisdom evolved depending on how tenure. This, he refused ... and blessings are growing just as the growth of the vines, rope cows, trees, jungle ... This he also denies.

(2) Again, in confirmation of this notion, he must also accept that when a alms they get blessed with an unflinching not mind? He gives so. But, on the other hand this implies achievements merit with no memory, no note, no mind, no hesitation, no calculations. Are not there otherwise? He agreed, so very wrong to say that merit continuous growth depending on how tenure.

(3) Again, in confirmation of his conception, has also admitted he had a life of generosity can receive blessings when they give alms to the fitness center has views, golf views, and harm Games? He admitted. But here we have to coordinate the two excavators, two feelings, two thoughts, two private, two care? He did not agree to you? Think it again! Now, he agreed. Like him, they still maintain that the mental state of good and evil, guilt and innocence, vile and noble, and in light pollution coexist together in the back of mind? He refused, Please say think again! Now, he agreed. But is Exalted has declared that: "There are four things, the monks, the work is far, far away together. What four? Heaven and earth, the monks, is things are very far away from this first together. coast side, the monks, with the other side of the sea, is very far, far away with each second, from where the sun rises, this monks, to where the sun goes down, the work is far, far away with third. France's immoral person classes, is very far, far away together this Wednesday. Hey monks, here are four things very far, very far this together. "

"So far as the sky
is also very far from the earth
is said so far
is the other coast
From sunrise
shining light radiating
lamps for sunset
(That truth is far away)
They say further
is legal level of improvement
with those measures unwholesome
fact far, far more
harmony with good levels
constant, is not working Removal
When left standing
still so persistent
harmony unwholesome But
very quickly ruined
thus improving the legal level
very far from the wicked law " ?  (1)

Therefore, it is wrong to say that the state of mind ... good and evil exist in the same time.

(4) RS: - But if his opposition is rational, there must Exalted has declared:

Who planted the garden, planting.
Who can build bridges.
Training of wells for drinking water. Those who for houses. The day he. Merit is always growing. Resident Bhikshus law. The he being God



.  ( 2)

So blessed is constantly growing depending on how tenure.

(5) Again, there must be Exalted has declared that: "O Bhikkhus, there are four sources being blessed, being the source of this improvement brings Peace, heavenly, simple fruit maturity is taken to heaven , taken to the pleasurable, capable joy, capable attention, happy, at peace. What four? Hey monks, monks while he's at the age of one, at the age of someone begging food, resident lived Whose origin, at the age of one pharmaceutical treatment, and dwell reached immeasurable concentration, such as being the source for his countless blessings, is a source of good birth, bringing peace, under heaven, is independent horror results lead to heaven, leading to pleasurable, capable joy, capable mind, happiness, peace ... "?  (3)

Thus merit continuous growth depending on how tenure.

(6) Th: - He has confirmed his opinion. Now, there is a generosity to others and the recipient of this generosity brought discarded, unused, the generosity has not received blessings? He answered "Yes".Thus, he could not say that merit is constantly growing depending on how tenure.

(7) Or when alms are received, but kings, thieves taken away, or burned by fire, or been swept away, or heirs are not favorites, brought back in, the charity has achievements merit it?

From here, he can not assume that merit depending on how tenure is.

6. ISSUES RESULTING FROM THE CANDIDATE STATEMENT(Itodinnakatha)

Rate debate : Giving in one place, life used somewhere else (as blessed life, their relatives are used)

According to Note : This view of the sect  Rajagirikas  and  Sammitiyas,  stems from the wrong understanding passages "The generosity in this life achievements merit remains to relatives of deceased in a past life."

(1) Th: - This concept of compulsory He admitted that he had medical alms, bowl, as the food, medicine, food kind of hard, soft type in this life, enjoy (the things that ) in later life. This he refused.And he admitted, adding that an employer who is acting for others, feelings of happiness or misery by another person, or a person entitled to act, the consequences others. He denies these things.

(2) RS: - He denied our concept, but have not hungry ghost grateful people doing good and giving to due to their dedication? Are they not rejoice, affordable they please?

(3) And is Exalted has declared that: "As water flowing down from the upper gulf, even so, people are still giving this life achievements for deceased relatives at Peta lives. as water from the rivers flowing into the sea, even so, people are still giving this life achievements to relatives Peta life. in the world Peta, no livestock, agriculture, trade, wholesale sold by money. in this life, Peta received only alms that relatives had to make merit and dedicate it. "  (1)   so our concept is very rational.

(4) Again, Is Exalted have urged that "O Bhikkhus, this mother of five sons born father wanted the family. What is the year? To be helped, will help, we ; Or will work for us; will maintain a long tradition of the family, will continue the legacy inherited, will be offered for the deceased donor animals ( PETA ) are common destiny. Because of this, monks, parents want sons born in the family:

Do that in the matter. The wise son wanted. To be helped, help me again, I'll be working for me. I'll be long maintained the family tradition will continue to preserve the patrimony inherited Or for the deceased dedication of offerings Because he saw what his son wanted wise sage Tier friendly, human foot grateful know repay Me to old jobs we support mothers hospitality father we do all the work as before making them perform teaching teachinghospitality help support the family tradition with a long-term Maintain full credits and the son be praised " 





















(2) 

Does not all of this theory? Hence our concept is very rational.

7. ISSUES AND LOCAL INDUSTRY MEETING(Pathavikammavipakatikatha)

Rate Debate:  Great location is now effective.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Andhakas . Because the direct action of man and war as fought on the great earth, so great local sect that itself is the result of karma. This thesis presents two problems are not common place for these feelings arise from the results are the results so now is a matter of individual subjective experience of another person without being dominant, many types, if no local effect is great, the great earth can not live on it.

(1) Th .: - As he said, the great earth depends on pleasures, unpleasant, indifferent, non-communication or corresponds to the life expectancy, the emotional, the idea, as, with the heart, with great local said the scene, the memory, the resistance, the optical feedback, the busy heart, attention, longing for a purpose.

Is it true about the great place it opposite? From his conception is not acceptable.

(2) Again, great local comparison with any such property with the contact center. With contacts, he can say is both legal exposure (i) the results of karma (ii) depending on the sensations (as section 1). But he could not say this both to great local law is. Or, if his accreditation before (i) and later denied legal (ii) to the University, he had to admit so in the case of contact.

(3) Again, great place to go through a lifetime, cylinders, tanks-not. Could he say the same for the results now?

Again, the great earth can it be a trade, was a haven, a place to gather, where explorers. There could, so he conceived for the results now?

Again, great local people is common. But now there are fruits of common to all people? He had the notion that the result of common cause for all people? He said that the results now common to all people. But is Exalted has declared that: "Merit is not dependent individual, not thieves can get. With wholesome, he will be reborn in a realm of joy"?  (1)

From here, it is wrong to say that the result of common cause for everyone.

(4) Again, he accepted the great earth is established first, and then the new beings born on the great earth. But is now born fruit of the first, and then the newly created beings now to enjoy reading? If he refused, he could not maintain that place is the result of the industrial era.

(5) Again, there is great local to the general result, is the karma of living beings? He conceived like?Does he wish that all beings are not entitled to use the great earth? If he refused, he was unable to confirm his notion. If he agrees, I would like to ask him whether there who have died without enjoying great local use? Of course, he agreed. But somebody has to die without their tenure not result now? Of course he refused ....

(6) Again, there is great local to rank results by beings will now become Level cakkavatti not? and there must also be other beings do not enjoy great local use? He agreed. So there must be other beings of grades awarded would not now? He refused .... I asked him again and he agreed. So there must be other beings lived in contact, feeling, perception, investment, credit, need, mindfulness, concentration and wisdom, he's not? Of course he refused ...

(7) A .: - But if I'm wrong there must certainly take action on a great local wars, take actions on the struggle over the great local warlords? If there is such a great place to make the results of karma.

8. ISSUES AND NOW Laozi (Jaramaranavipakatikatha)

Rate debate : Lao-tzu is its fruit.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Andhakas.

(1-2), Th: - The first paragraph is identical to point 7, replace the word "fruit of Industry" by "effective".

(3) Again, he admitted that, old age and death will karmic evil fruit? Thus, he has to admit, old age and death of good karma will give good results. This he refused .... But in the refusal clause after he imply first refusal clause ...

(4) Or, does he think of the good karma will laozi unwholesome fruit? He confirmed that? Thus, he covers old age and death will karmic good results? This he refused ... But in this refusal, he implied rejection of the first clause.

(5) Or, did he confirm laozi of both good and evil would be evil results? He confirmed that? Therefore he is not other than to say that "both are good results." This he refused.

(6) A .: - He said that my opinion is wrong. But certainly there are actions taken to the decadence, debauchery, and leads to premature death? So my opinion is very rational.

9. INDUSTRY ISSUES RESULTING FROM CLASS AND CHURCH (Ariyakammavipakatikatha)

Rate debate : St. now no corresponding results.

In Note : Gender  Andhakas  notion that happiness results Salmone merely the cessation negativity, negative nature without the active character of the mind.

(1-2), Th: - But he admits there are retribution in the life recluses or Brahmin and far above the four holy (sacred fruit of religion). So, how can he deny the Holy result of karma.

(3) Or, if he rejects the four stages of this, He also must reject with horror maturity corresponding results of almsgiving, the celibate life or of the practice. But this, He remains ...

(4) In maintaining this position, he also must not be more different concepts have mastered the simple result of the outcome of the Noble.

(5) Again, of course, he will admit to the realm of karma in humanity or in the realm of gods, Lust, Caution, or Formless world will give corresponding results. Is He also acknowledged that the world will now super friendly super fruit that? (Although he denies this by his own conception) Conversely, if he said that now is not super friendly super fruits that, He also must renounce the mundane results in the realm of human sexuality or plane devas.

(6) A .: - of course he will have to accept that good karma mundane. (Compassion Lust and formless friendly) for the corresponding results leads to rebirth. Does this not make him acceptable, so wholesome super super fruit that (as he says) and this result also brought to rebirth (though he denies this)?

10. LEGAL ISSUES AND FRANCE RESULTS(Vipakovipakadhammadhammotikatha)

Rate debate : France itself is also effective juridical (legal likely to result).

According to the Explanatory Note : As a result of the industry in relation by interdependence Support(annamannapaccayo )  [1]  should be sent  Andhakas  have legal concept that results is a legal entity itself of other fruits.

(1) Th: - If his concept is rational, it can be said that the legal consequence of a result other fruits born of the law. This he refused ... Or if he agrees, he implicitly confirmed that there is no cessation of suffering, no cessation of rebirth, no nirvana, but this is contrary to the teachings.

(2) Again, had he not accepted that legal and juridical effect (likely the result) is also the same thing, also the same factors, the origin of it?

(3) Therefore, these two mixing methods, the existence, at the appropriate, related to each other, at birth, and kill, and peer with each apartment and reasonable? All these things he refused ...

(4) Again, there must be an action he said that evil is evil fruit, or a good deed is a good result? Are people's mind is the mind killing also results in hell fire? Does his heart is also giving attention results in the realm gods enjoy ...

(5) A .: - He refused my opinion, but there must be legal quad aggregates result of the mutual relationship through the closely it? If so, certainly a lot of sense to say that the result itself is also legal entity that?

-ooOoo-

CHAPTER VIII

1. ISSUES six paths (Gatikatha)

Rate debate : There is six paths (six path to rebirth).

According to Note : This view of the sect  Andhakas  and  Uttarapathakas  that Asura is a form of rebirth Friday. Phai  Theravadins  has rectified this notion by presenting clear about 5 to now (the path of rebirth) in prayer: "Hey Sariputta, there are 5 road to rebirth ...."  (1)  The actually, the group Asura Vepacitta  get rid of the affliction fourth and gods lived between worlds, the form and type of living this Asura like gods. And also group Asura  Kalakanjakas  Peta live among species and forms a species living like ghosts.

(1)  Theravadins: -  Is Buddha once said about 5 road (reborn): Hell, Bang birth, Peta, Humans and gods.

(2) And there must be species Asura preta  (Kalakajaka Asuras ) like Peta ugly form a dreaded, in terms of nature, Flora, married life and affordable way?

(3) And there must be species Asura Uranus  (Vepacitti)  like gods, gods marry?

(4) And there must have Asura Uranus same stature with the gods or stars?

(5) AU: - But because there are groups of Asura, should be rational not to say that such groups may be the way of rebirth?

2. CHINA PROPERTY ISSUES  (intermediate) (Antarabhavakatha)

Rate debate : Is there a center-right.

According to Note : The sect as  Pubbaseliyas  and  Sammitiyas  aware when the term "Middle State Real complete"  (1)  (Career Real hybrid attained Arhat half-life first and then enter nirvana at Pure natural migration) should that there is an intermediate floor where beings waiting (to go sentient life in the next life) for a week or longer. Transparency of the sect argues  Theravadins  based on the teachings of the Buddha, only three planes to take rebirth as sphere, Lust, and formless. (2)

(1) Th: - If China friendship, he must identify the main center-right is the Education Organic or Organic Matter, or organic Formless? This he refused ...

(2) He also denies that state ownership in China between organic and Multicultural Education property, or in the middle and Formless Organic Organic Matter ...

(3) In fact, he admits there is no such law at all, so how can he maintain his concept is?

(4) Is China the birth place Thursday organic, organic Friday is the eighth spot or subsidies realms of beings residing tenth? Are China's Organic Organic is Sanh, where the cylindrical form, is self-reported body? Have yet to lead to China now exists? There are these beings born in the Middle Huu not? Are we born birth, aging, illness, death and rebirth from which he did not also from the spot?There must have existed where the five aggregates Middle exist? All this he refused. So how can he maintain his concept is?

(5-7) He recognized that one of the issues are applicable for one of the three worlds has been mentioned above, the only difference in the first two realms - Gender and Sexual Lust - is the five aggregates property, also in the realms of Immaterial beings, only aggregates organic Quartet (because there is no aggregate). Thus, if China friendship He had identified some or all of these issues (in section 4) of China Organic. But he said that this issue could not identify him ...

(8) He also denies that China friendship for all living beings. Thus, from his point of view this is not universally valid.

(9-11) For these beings have the Middle organic deny Him? Is it to create Infernal beings not now?  (3)  If he agrees, when extrapolating to his position or is not rational beings have for cockroaches do not create wealth, He now confirmed with China organic? He agrees. Therefore, he must renounce the Middle organic beings to reverse.

He also refused Middle title to being reborn in hell, in the realm of mindless and formless in heaven.Therefore, he has no concept of the overall value. However, he maintains that China is not useful for being indirectly create wealth now, not being reborn in hell, nor beings mindless realm and formless realms.

(12) PS: - But there must be no beings "Central State any completed" or what? If we do not have affordable rational?

(13) Th: - Admittedly there being "no refund Middle bang" but being "match any complete" no? He admitted there. But if there are beings admit that "no complete match", it must also "state property Sanh" reasonable? There are beings "Being state property issue completely" there must also have "reasonable Organic Organic onions?" There being "no refund Upstream states" there must also have "organic Upstream" reasonable? If he refuse, he must deny his views.

3. ISSUES IN EDUCATION ABOUT EDUCATION LAC(Kamagunakatha)

Rate debate : Education ranks world just means sensual.

According to Note : This point is expanded to reorganize the meaning of the word  "Kamadhatu " were dispatched  Pubbaseliyas  understood in narrow sense. They do not discern the meaning of two words "Kamadhatu  " (worlds) and  "Kamaguna " (pleasure).

The meaning of the word  "Kamadhatu " be interpreted in several ways:

- Vatthukama , objects of sensual pleasures. - Kilesakama,  afflictions or the worldly education - Kamabhava , eleven planes from hell to heaven six sensuous.

In the first,  Kama  means the object of craving; in Monday, Kama has two meanings is the object of sexual desire and craving heart; and in the final sense,  KAMA  has three means that the object of desire, craving heart and where there are objects of sexual desire exists - Also  Dhatu  always mean the area, existence itself without the expenditure What a self distribution.

(1)  Theravadins:  - Is He acknowledged the desire, contentment and delight those craving are bound by the five desires or what? So how can he maintain that property merely sexual pleasure?

(2) Is He said that human knowledge is not contingent extensive contacts with useful education, with corresponding external years and consciousness? He answered "no" (that is only meant sensuous pleasures contingent) but he think again ... Now, He agreed and said that sexual sense is not useful (because superpower or meditation is the conscious layer). But is Exalted has declared that "the five sensual consciousness in this life with the six, one boring, sensual glass cover, he escaped sorrow"? (1)   Since this can not be said that organic does not include sexual consciousness.

(3) Again, he may assume that the five desires of possession, being under the shelter space, under birth place, under the office of the official site, self-reports of yourself? There are no leads now being reborn in the army is not sensual? There being no birth, aging, illness, death, and rebirth in the army is not sensual? There must be five aggregates of contingent not sensual? Are the five aggregates do not exist in five sensual pleasures? Are omniscient Buddha, Buddha unicorn, two disciples born in the five sensual?

(4) All these things he can claim only in the heavenly realms without the sensual contingent.

(5) P: - But did the Buddha have urged that "O Bhikkhus, there are five things sensual. What is the year? The object: color, sound, smell, taste, touch lovable, capable attention, ability happy, pleasurable, corresponds to sexual attractiveness and perceived by eye, ear, nose, tongue, body. This is contingent sensual "? ( 1)

From here, certainly ranks only sensuous pleasure only.

4. ISSUES AND MILITARY personnel TRAN (Kamakatha)

Rate debate : Five units and ceiling are made up of five sex.

According to Note : The texts are cited above (Thesis 3) should be sent  Pubbaseliyas  had this concept. Phai  Theravadins  clearly presented only "taints" actually constitutes sex.

(1) argument is the same as section (1), point 3.

(2) Theoretical seed section 5 and replaced by the phrase "From education merely consists ceiling five senses and the five elements."

(3) Th: - But did the Buddha has declared that "Hey monks, have fun in pleasure. What is the year? The object endearing, blowing their ability, the ability, the ability to receive communications formula with eye, ear ... Five things called sensual. But these monks, it is not for sensual A disciple saints. the situation in the world is not the desire, just who intend to participate in that's wrecked desire. the wise Tue rid of craving, endurance, endure in the scene "?  (2)

From here, it is wrong to assume that the ceiling contingent made up of five desires.

5. LEGAL IDENTITY ISSUES IN GENDER IDENTITY considered (Rupadhatukatha)

Rate debate : In the ultimate sense, the realms of international law are material.

In Note : Gender  Theravadins  criticized this conception of Andhakas sect that includes material in all organic realm as excellent ( Rupa-bhava ), and thereby, seconded  Theravadins also broadened the meaning of the material issues .  (1)

(1) Th: - So there must be organic material, where beings shelter, a place of birth, is the official shelter, the newspaper yourself? There does now being led into the material, being reborn into the material?Are we born birth, aging, illness, death and rebirth in the material? There are not five aggregates of material? Is rupa skandha exist?

(2) All of this, he can khanng the realms of sex, but not material. From material without all the measures relating to gender identity.

Again, if the world consists of only excellent material - and that He will admit - there is material in the realm of gender identity - So there must realms realms like the world does not? He replied "No". But think again. He himself had to admit that problem. Thus, we have to live in two worlds one person at a time ...

6. IDENTITY ISSUES IN FRANCE ABOUT formless realms(Arupadhatukatha)

Rate debate : In the ultimate sense, the law of the formless realms are non-material.

According to Note : This view of sex  Andhakas . Reasoning is the same as above, by obtaining a formless concept as "Life" and questioned whether there had Tho Tho in the formless realms.

(1) Th: - So there must be organic Tho, where beings are shifting residence, the place of birth, is the refuge of the formula, is not self-reported body? Are now being driven into non-life? Beings are reborn in life is not? Are we born birth, aging, illness, death and rebirth of Life does not?  Are the Five Aggregates in life? Five Aggregates Are Feeling is useful?

(2) All these things he can determine under formless realms, but not only aggregates of Life.

Again, if the formless realms only meant purely non-material qualities - And He will admit that there Tho and other aggregates in the heavenly realms - Are both sexes (planes) is also the same thing not?Or is he right or is His refusal to accept. In the latter case, we have for a being in two worlds at once, similar reasoning to the formless realm and the realm of gender identity. And if all three are the same gender as the same thing, we will assume that a being lives in three worlds at the same time ...

7. ORIGIN OF THE ISSUES ABOUT realms (Rupadhatuya ayatanakatha )

Rate debate : In the realm of gender identity, beings with all continental origin.

In Note : Gender  Andhakas  and  Sammitiyas  surveyed passages "In the realm of gender identity, where identity is still present fact, not only have the nerve, eye, ear, but also the still exist"  (1)  and they deduced that realm and other realms brahma still, tongue, and body.

(1) Th: -If such notions, and if a person is in this realm Rate origin, he had to admit this person can also taste the land, the subject of his origin Billion. Similarly, also contact your parish and parish.

(2) But he denies the existence of that object in this realm.

(3-6) It seems that in the recognition of him, he is only the existence of restrictions and silent land of origin identity (subject of labels and atrium) and the origin (of the object) in this realm without excess recognize smell, taste, touch land.

(7-8), he said "No". He had to admit that there are labels of origin, atrial origin, the origin, identity and origin, silent land, and legal origin. While he admits there Billion origin, damage the land, and the land where the body rejects the existence of native origin, the origin and emotional origin.

(9-10) In fact, although he acknowledged the existence of the smell, taste and touch his origin, must also reject the audience identify with him, tongue and body in this world, but he accepted receiver, thinh origin and perception of that object by eye, ear ....

(11-13) But there are a few cardinal said that the perception of taste, touched by the respective parish as he has admitted. I would ask that in this world affordable realms with the smell born from the roots, bark, wood pulp, leaves, fruit, with even the birth of greens, stems, leaves, flowers, fruit or the sour, sweet, bitter, salty, sweet, good, bad, or has the touch as hard and soft, smooth and rough, happiness and unhappiness, heavy and light? He denies the existence of the above in the realm of gender identity ...

(14) AS: - But in this world, there must be no taste and touch Made?

Th: - Well, true.

AS: - So there is not reasonable to assume that in the realm of gender identity being sufficient continental origin?

8. LEGAL IDENTITY ISSUES IN formless (Arupe rupakatha)

Rate debate : There is material in the formless realms.

In Note : Gender  Andhakas  had conceived by inference from the teachings of the Buddha: "Because there is consciousness and matter should be", (1)   they believe in the invisible realms of excellence with international existence.

(1) Th: - So there must be sharp  (Rupa)  is excellent property, where beings rely, the place of birth, the body is not self-report? This he refused, but all these things he can determine the formless realms.Therefore, he could not maintain his conceptions are.

(2) he can not determine the true ownership of the five aggregates (in this world) in which there is an aggregate of form aggregates. But he could only admit only excellent quartet in which organic aggregates aggregates absence.

(3) You can define excellence in the realm of truly gender identity, but this realm is the realm formless identity is.

(4) And if he truly define excellence in the formless realms He had indicated that the status of how excellence in the realm of organic ... Immaterial as self-reported body.

(5) Again, there must be Exalted have urged that "In the formless realms, color absent" or what? If that is true, does he still maintain his conception? He maintains you? Well, Buddha had also claimed that the road was ordained sexual ly  (2)  . According to his reasoning, if any formless realms excellence in education in the cup then education, which taints who was freed from the contraband, with legal measures in super mundane world. What's so absurd.

9. IDENTITY ISSUES NOW (Rupamkammantikatha)

Rate debate : Sac legal action (including the voters themselves and the tri-gate) in mind, the moral or immoral identity called now (good or bad).

According to Note : Some sects like  Mahimasasaka s and  Sammitiyas  that physical and verbal actions of beings are material, physical and verbal expression tri (3)   if the action is good and is good mental immoral if operating of immoral activities. If such a concept, physical and verbal actions are moral in nature - good and evil - which is not that nothing is signed. As we all know, all the good and evil characters are used for the expression of body and speech through the material properties (4)

(1) Th: - If such a concept (if identity is included in the body of good karma), then he must also know the scene sharp, have a great memory status, have noticed, there is desire, there is a decision Centre, a purpose. He denies this. In other words, color is not good.

(2) All of this law, he can determine the charity born from contact center facilities as well as good life, good ideas, good investment, credit, need, mindfulness, concentration and wisdom is born from the heart good and with an object of consciousness. But he could not say that now colors included in the body.

(3) Or, he will accept that, if his identity is not known identifier, the scene was also excellent with no notice, no desire, no heart trouble, ..v ..v ... but he could not deny to contact, feeling, perception ... was born from good legal mind is good, but do not know the situation, do not have the attention ...

(4) Now that the identity of the professional bodies, identity was the result of the moral consciousness: Are all legal identity are not friendly? He refused. But so, he could not maintain his concept in general is. For example, does he call the scene, is seen as the result of moral consciousness, is excellent not good? There must be sound, smell, taste, touch or four four great colors (if they happen like that) is the result of moral consciousness, is excellent not good? He refused ...

(5) Therefore, what can he called a certain color, the battery case is neutral (non-friendly, non-immoral) does not? He agrees. But he still denies that identity or physical factors arise in any case as the industry itself, is neutral approach which he said it was "good" ...

(6) Now, let's say his opinion about the professional bodies "charity" as an unknown landscape material. Does he also accept similar to the scene, hearing, touch ... or four great colors as a material can not know the scene in every case is "good". But he rejects this.

(7) His refusal to recognize that viewpoint, if he admits any kind of scene or any kind of identity are the four elements arise from moral consciousness, the kind of scene and color does not know is that nothing is Register, it likewise. He has to accept the identity of the body is the result of moral consciousness voters do not know the legal context and is also neutral.

(8) He calls the body of this knowledge is the result of moral consciousness, is excellent, "good" (although it only sharpens only) no contact with any nomenclature such as "contact" for example.However, he again rejects possibility of replacing it if the voters themselves to any kind of scene (objects in formula) or a public four great colors.

(9) However, he had to admit any kind of scene or any one the four great colors that are arising from the moral consciousness, but not related to any kind of nomenclature does, then it's very sharp sign.However, he still rejected it as nothing is signed if the identity of his replacement nghep body is being run from a kind of moral consciousness for any scene or how the four great colors.

(10-11) And if "in the non-contact with the contact list or enter", I would like to add that "it does not know the situation," His attitude is the same as above (in (8) and (9)).

(12-15) argument is repeated by replacing "the tri-gate" with "the knowledge itself."

(16) On the other hand, the voters themselves arise from immoral. He accepted that kind of immoral identity. Thus, this identity must also know and have views of the nomenclature of the characteristics mentioned above. This he refused. But on the other hand, this identity is not immoral.

(17) All of this law, he can determine belongs immoral, or exposure arising from the immoral, and immoral life, evil thoughts, immoral investment, craving, hatred and delusion anesthesia, wrong, cynical, heartless, fearless, arise from distractions are immoral, all this legal all know the scene. But he could not say so in the case of the tri body, because it is material or of material elements.

(18) Again, he had to admit that if evil is in kind of identity that he did not know the scene identification, no attention, along with the other features described above, but He will deny that contact, feeling , thought, desire, anger, ... arise from the immoral, do not know the scene, lack of attention, along with other characteristics ...

(19) Now, with legal identity which he called "evil" from immoral arises: if all these measures are immoral? He agreed to star? Are oil that is "the intellectual body" or other physical factors? He denies this, as this means that his concept also implies that there is some kind of identity is being run from the immoral is immoral, there are several other types of identity are not.

(20-23) And all the things we argued about the body is considered as excellent tri unwholesome apply to export unwholesome.

(24) The theory that he could call when scenery is the subject of sharp immoral is not evil? Or is sound, smell, taste, touch? Or any of the four public identity? Or is semen, tears, blood, sweat (if one of these colors arise from immoral). He has called them immoral not excellent? He refused ...

(25) Is He said one of the neutral color that is not? He agreed. But he denies that the identity or material factors arise in all cases as bodily and verbal action is neutral and for what he did as "immoral" ...

(26) Let's say his views about the tri-gate is considered excellent not know the scene: Is He also unacceptable that any identity yet again, or any of the four types of identity, or any type of pollution identity as semen, tears, urine ... the colors did not know the scene, in all cases is "evil"? But he refused ...

(27) His refusal to recognize that viewpoint, if he accept any of the public in this identity, it is being run from the heart, do not know the legal situation is called a neutral; Similarly. He must recognize physical and verbal expression arise from tri immoral, do not know the scene, as well as neutral approach.

(28-31) argument is repeated as (8-11), replace "evil" to "good", "Export" to "Body" and added, "semen, tears, blood, sweat" for with scenery and four great colors.

(32) MS: - But if we can not say that the material is good or bad, does not have behavior or language is good or bad now? (This is entirely in accordance with the teachings). Therefore, our perceptions have rational.

(33) Th: - But if he maintains that excellence is good or bad, he did not hesitate to say: All year internal origin and scene, four four great colors and sharp pollution ... essentially "good" or "evil". This he refused.

(34) If the body and the body is now excellent, he will have to determine that standard and now also is the identity? Conversely, if both are non-sharp, he should acknowledge that both relatives and non-relatives is excellent now? Or if the body is non-identity and identity itself is now there have told him so well for the industry and attention?

(35) Said that professional bodies as well as body color, which covers the case as "the year is excellent because in scene mode is excellent."

(36) He said that identity is not now, because there must be Exalted have urged that "O Bhikkhus, is that we declare now, after we thought, we create about themselves now, about words, about what "? (1)

(37) Again, "Ananda, Friendly place, by personal volition, internal communication arises suffering body. It does have the words, Ānanda, by demographic volition, internal communications yourself suffering arises. where does mean, Ānanda, caused by the human volition, internal communication itself arises suffering. "  (2)

(38) Again, "Behold the monks Chu, there are three types of professional bodies, four types and three types of standard industrial exports are evil now bring pain and suffering result? There are three types of professional bodies, four paralytic verbal and three types of reviews provide wellbeing and now happily results ".  (3)

(39) Again, "Ananda, if Samiddhi when pagan Patalipputta wanderer asked, will respond that" this appears false, when a volitional deeds by body, speech and mind to touch sensations, pain non-communication or indifferent, they will enjoy the fruits touch, non-touch suffering or non-wrenching. "  (4)

There must have all of this? Thus, it is not reasonable to assume that identity or physical factors are now.

10. RIGHTS NETWORK IDENTITY ISSUES (Jivitarupamkatha)

Rate debate : No network identity approach is right.  (5)

According to Note : The sect  Pubbaseliya s and  Sammitiyas  that only the right network is a non-identity phenomena, to distinguish them from the mind should therefore no right material in the network.

(1) Th: - Without the right network identity, he also implied that no law is survival, the alternative, the continuity, the current development, the preservation of the material. But he rejects this; Rather, he conceived the opposite. So his conception can not stand.

(2) For non-identity law, he accepted that the existence of rights as well as the name of the network continues its ongoing. Why accept the media rights partnership network that the network identity case denied rights?

(3) He confirmed the network rights list, why not accept such a network for the right color? There is no mistake in recognizing the network identity that denied rights and material life right?

(4) Is He said that the life of the material is also a list right network? Is He maintained the opposite?No? Why not?

(5) Both the right network, he said, were non identity. It seems to me; He also said that both networks are sharp right.

(6-7) He will admit exists with the right network entry level mindless meditation to exterminate life.But he could not say that he is the right network of nomenclature level (as in a state that ranks no interest). So network aggregates rights belong to any? He said that in the formations it? But is this group still exists for entry level mindless meditation to exterminate life? Does he not agree? I repeat the question. He now agrees. But if an entry level Life Extinction mindless meditation to still volitional then this level will also have other aggregates such as sensation, perception, consciousness. Does he not agree? I repeat the question. He now agrees. Thus, he can not enter meditation Career Kill mindless life to be.

(8-9) If the network does not have the right color, the right network can not exist for formless realms beings, does this mean beings can have rights network list? Reasoning as above, for the act which he recognized aggregates for mindless beings, beings can not get enough of this five aggregates as in the realms of existence are the five aggregates.

(10) If the network only completely pure rights belong to the mind, it is influenced by the conditions of the nomenclature. He will admit that the right network born from a continuous birth center, when this mind right away, the network was also destroyed partially. Now, did he say that the right network is like a mere nomenclature such as contact? Why not? Does he also want to say that contacts are destroyed, not only kill the part that totally destroyed? He could say the same for the right to network?He refused ....

(11) PS: - So there must be two kinds of rights (identity and identity) is not?

Th: - Well, true.

PS: - So, did he admit it: We live with both life and death with two death?

Th: - No, can not say that about.

11. RESULTS ISSUES NOW (Kammahethukatha)

Rate debate : Because now, an Arhat could leave necrotic fruition Arhat.

According to Note : The sect  Pubbaseliyas  and  Sammitiyas  that an Arhat can leave necrotic defamation fruition because a different Arhat.

(1-2), Th: - How could he accept this concept without accepting property three learned sages can also damage leaves fruition?

(3) And according to his statement, Arhat level can damage leaves fruition not because of the karma of killing, stealing, sexual misconduct in, promising language, bisexual damage, kill me, kill mother, Buddha bleeding, increased legal harmony, but because libel a notch another Arhat. He accepted level Arhat can damage leaves defamation fruition by one level Arhat, but he again refused that someone defames Arhat level, the realization of the A-la results -hate. Therefore, his conception is flawed because the libel was a mirage.END=NAM MO CAKYA MOUNI BUDDHA.( 3 TIMES ).VIETNAMESE TRANSLATE ENGLISH BY=THICH CHAN TANH.THE MIND OF ENLIGHTENMENT.WORLD VIETNAMESE BUDDHIST ORDER=VIETNAMESE BUDDHIST NUN=GOLDEN LOTUS MONASTERY=AUSTRALIA,SYDNEY.28/10/2016.MHDT.