Chapter IX

1. ISSUES stroll hindrances (Anisamsakatha)

Rate debate : Trien be comprehended annihilation with Nirvana.

In Note : According to the teachings, we believe that anyone fully articulate (a) world (compounded because) dangerous, (b) is the ultimate nirvana, the slopes then be total annihilation. But the sect Andhakas  see only one of the two cases, they claim that only the case after new Trien annihilation.Such a view is correct again by the reasoning of sect  Theravadins .

(1) Th: - There must make an end when the slopes are also worldly  (Sakhara ) is seen as impermanent? Of course he accepted this. Therefore, he should not be limited in his views.

(2) He also acknowledges Trien is the total extinction of the legal world is seen as impermanent, painful, such as illness, such as pimples, like an arrow, as the risks, as the tribulation, such as the ear variables, such evil is, as the risk variables, such as the difficulty, such as the demolition, is not shifting residence place, no retreat, no hiding place, not protected, is not as selfless vacancies filled the risks and uncertainties. But by the way, his concept will become one-dimensional.

(3) Therefore, he accepted that (the same time) one can survey both impermanence and the law above the earth, and comprehended the Nirvana? He did not agree to star? But he admitted that the slopes are annihilation when people clearly comprehend both the above. He has admitted a person can clearly comprehend this? But is this not complicated for us to mind two things, two excavators, two life ... In the same time?

(4) A .: - he rejects our concepts. But is Exalted have urged that: "Hey monks, who lived here with custom classes in the Nirvana restaurant optimistic, optimistic thoughts, feeling lost in all the time continuously, without interruption, with heart winners, with insight can enter. he, with the destruction of the cankers ... After enlightenment, attained, dwell. This is the first class who deserve respect ... is the supreme blessing fields in life "?  (1)

So, definitely a happy comprehended by Nirvana - Tables cast is total annihilation.

2. REAL ISSUES DEATH is the subject of development(Amatarammanakatha)

Rate debate : Immortality is the object of the property with Trien Center.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Pubbaseliyas , by understanding careless  (2)   when referencing passages ordinary guys think of Nirvana as Nirvana.

(1) Th: - If he had such notions, he also has to be prepared to admit that immortal question is the subject of organic mind with slopes, blessed System, Boc saved, depending Mien, fetters, Thu, Bothered brain? There must not be subject to question Trien property with the opposite approach?

(2-4) He admits Immortalized contact center has love, hatred and delusion, it is being run. But is he also admitted Immortalized in itself leads to love, the desire, the dream, the passion and desire deeply desire? Is Immortalized lead to anger, furious? Is immortality leads to ignorance, lack of location, confusion, leading to the suspension of the mind, leading to the destruction of the mind, leading to intellectual sabotage, halt the realization of Nibbana - Tables? Is Immortalized as opposed to the legal approach to this? So, how can he say that immortal question with loving friendship, hatred and delusion, still birth was started?

(5) With all these measures, he can identify the property due to the sharp mind that this method is being run. But identity is not immortal.

(6) He also explained that the reason was not hindrances arise due to physical, and material does not lead to the slopes, Boc save, Custom Hypnosis, blessed with the legal system other evil. Therefore, how he can confirm this for Immortality: The reason Trien arise due immortal, immortal not lead to Trien, Boc save, depending newspapers ...? Or is the reason charity, si, si arise due immortal, but immortality is not love, hatred, and delusion?

(7) P: - But did the Buddha have urged that "The idea mortal prophet ... Nirvana Nirvana Nirvana Because voters are passing thought - Tables, it thought of nirvana, think of (self intersection) for comparison with Nirvana, thinking (self) as Nirvana, he thought 'nirvana is mine', Nirvana sexual rapture.  why? I told him no full understanding nirvana "?  ( first)

Therefore, Immortality is the object of attention is not fully liberated.

3. IDENTITY ISSUES WARNING MAY KNOW(Rupamsarammanatikatha)

Rate debate : Lust can be both a scene, the scene is both legal aware.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Uttarapathakas , that identity can be identified  Sarammana (Scene) or base color can be charming (See  ārammana paccayo  in the  Patthana ). Actually, it's just the name of the legal conditions for energy awareness. This view presents two significant distinctions of  ārammana.

(1) Th: - If such a concept, he also acknowledged excellence or relatives that have the characteristics of nomenclature like the attention, the attention, the protests, the desire, heart trouble, there purpose.This approach only those he admitted to the center, but for excellence He refused.

(2) All of these characteristics, or one of these characteristics, he can recognize the ownership of the mind, such as Loader, Feeling, Perception, Will, Mind, Tin Can, mindfulness, concentration and wisdom, Ai, anger, ignorance, conceit, wrong view, Doubt, Kiss downs, rooms booked, heartless, fearless - All of these are legal owner knew the scene. But the material is not the legal one of them, so the above characters can not be recognized to be material.

(3) He denies all the characteristics of nomenclature as attention, expectations, incidents ... in case attention to nomenclature. But he still claims that the material is "legal Scene" - this law actually applies only to the contact, feeling, perception ... which he has admitted is not lack the characteristics of nomenclature ...

(4) U .: - But there must be no material relationship with the scene it? Of course, he agreed. Because of this connection should have a lot of sense when using the name "Scene measures" for material (because the scene is one of 24 charming).

4. LEGAL ISSUES WARNING TO KNOW absolved VARY(anusaya anarammanatikatha)

Rate debate : Custom Hypnosis (also known as the potential loss lobe) is legal does not know the scene.

According to Note : This view of the sect  Andhakas  and  Uttarapathakas  that the hypnosis method is called Custom, is the alternative to the heart to know, without any conditions, uncertainty should not peer with interest. Seconded reasoning  Theravadins  clearly stated what kind of legal "do not know the scene".

(1) Th: - Thus, depending on the form of the material is free, is nirvana, or a year of origin, or a scene in years. He refused.

Let us take the first free form option is charity Depending free. If this free educational charity option, the scene did not know whether he did not confirm that it was like all the sexual expression of kindness such as Germany Trade, Education upsurge, Education Coordinator, Custom Hypnosis Education? Is He not confirm that free education is not loving option slopes education ... Education Coordinator, which we do not have the same view?

(2) Again, depending education free of aggregates public charity?  He said that in the formations. But free education option has the same affinity as the aggregates remaining scenes, which he had accepted.So, how can he maintain his concept is?

(3) If he accepts (a) charity Custom Hypnosis is volitional, but volitional not know the scene, he also must say that for (b) general education charity. But he rejected (depending on free education charity as part of sensual desires).

(4) As such, he must be confirmed with two types of aggregates (a) the aggregates do not know the scene, (b) know the scene volitional. There are two scenes volitional part known and unknown part of the scene? He also must confirm the same for the other aggregates ... but he can not confirm ...

(5) For the year depending hypnosis, hypnosis next depending resentment, arrogance, depending newspapers, newspapers Ta is customizable, depending newspapers Skepticism fraternal depending newspapers - The argument is similar to the above. Get free Saturday customized depending Hypnosis is ignorance, ignorance if newspapers do not know the scene option, then it does not have features such as Boc saved ignorance, ignorance distribution, fetters Ignorance, Ignorance slopes. This he refused (Ignorance Custom Hypnosis is only part of the measures Ignorance).

(6-8) Theory of aggregates are applied just like in the form of custom charm.

(9) AU: - But is not it rational to say that, as an ordinary person thinking about a legal good or neutral approach, he is known as "people who are depending on free"? And there must be (the same time) without the free option? (Is contingent implicit in him) do not know the scene?

(10) Th: - But he can say: In the same time, people are craving for attention and craving He denies that the scene did not know ...

5. PROPERTY ISSUES WARNING DO NOT KNOW (Nanam Anaramanantikatha)

Rate debate : Tue liberation is legal does not know the scene.

In Note : For an Arhat is not to say that paralyzed wisdom of your knowledge of this should be called unique shore and no scene as an object, that is, when he Centre's consciousness admission only arises route scenery consciousness only. And so, seconded  Andhakas had misconceptions, that your knowledge of the Arhat do not know the scene.

(1) Th: - If so, knowledge is also excellent, as Nirvana, is one of five domestic origin or foreign origin year (these measures were not to know the legal situation) but he refused ...

He also denied knowledge of rights, knowledge resources, Right, Trach enlightenment approach is unaware that he is determined scene backwards like that. So why except Tue (liberation)

(2-4) Here, he also insisted that the knowledge belongs to the formations. But in the previous point. He could not believe that volitional part do not know the scene, said the scene was a part. And he could not identify any knowledge in operating aggregates the scene said, while also freeing knowledge in operating aggregates do not know the scene.

(5) A: - He denies knowledge of liberation no scene, there is not rational to say that Tier Arhat had Tue full liberation (original shore) when you are looking scenery?

Th: - Well, a lot of sense.

A: - Knowledge of at the same time he had not known scene?

Th: - No, can not say so.

(6) But if he replaces "complete knowledge" for "complete liberation Wisdom", then he himself admitted that the Arhat is the one with knowledge completely to see scenery, and in at the same time, he denied knowledge of the scene he knew during the process of consciousness.

6. ISSUES WARNING TO KNOW HISTORICAL CENTER(Atitarammanakatha)

Rate debate : Heart with the past is the legal situation do not know the scene.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Uttarapathakas , said that because of scenes past and future do not really exist to mind scenes recalling the past is the mind does not know the scene.

(1) Th: - But does he admit there is a law such as legal past Scene? So, how can he contradict himself in his confirmation?

(2) Again, did not have a great memory, heart trouble, resistance ... is the past approach reasonable?

7. ISSUES WARNING TO KNOW YOUR FUTURE FOCUS(Anagatarammanakatha)

Rate debate : The mind has the legal situation is unknown futuristic scene.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Uttarapathakas .

(1-2) Just as in point 6, "The Hybrid" is substituted for "The Past".

(3) Th: - (Continued) Of course, he admits the current method is called, there is a desire, a great memory, heart trouble ... And so, attention is now legal scene Scene . And he also had to admit that there is a desire, a great memory, heart trouble ... In the past and the future. But according to him, in both cases, the law does not know the situation.

(4) Why do not say that when there is a desire, a great memory, trouble ... Of current interest and this interest contact current condition is unknown landscape mind?

(5) A .: - But does he admit that "Landscape past" does not exist (in the present) does not? therefore, certainly contact center landscape past (and future) is legal does not know the scene.

8. The only problem RANGE AND THE CONTACTS(Vitakhanupatitakatha)

Rate debate : Games involving all interested.

In Note : Range is expressed in two ways (1) when the mind as an object (2) in combination with a property interest. Without the influence of any natural law (Niyama) does such a mind can not reach, and the scene as this concept is considered very rational. But because there are so interested depend on the range without the cooperation of all interested (Here, in contrast to the notion that rational new).And seconded  Uttara  has maintained this view because there is no clear distinction as described above.

(1) Th: - If this concept a lot of sense, he must also be prepared to admit that the other property as Justice Center, Bliss, Joy, pain, grief, socially, Tin Can, mindfulness, concentration and wisdom craving, Golf, ... heartless, fearless, distractions are contacting all about. But he was not prepared to admit such ...

(2-4) However, there must be only Dinh Tu without Vision (Vision Forever Friends Quartet) as well as the no range, no Quartet (quartet Forever vain). In fact, there must be 3 types of samadhi that Buddha had distinguished (1) Concentration range of organic useful quartet (2) multitude Games Concentration Organic Quartet (3) the quartet countless vain?  (1)

Therefore, his concept is wrong.

9. PROBLEMS AND FOUR REACH CONDITIONS ARE HAVING LANGUAGE DEVELOPMENT(Vitakhavipharasaddakatha)

Rate debate : When judgment or rest (Range and Four), it arises language (Silence).

In Note : Due to the verse from "Language Games and quartet made by departments being" should sect  Pubbaseliyas sound that arise in the sense that route is not contingent formula because they are merely "vibrations"  (1)  (Vipphara ) of the Games and the Quartet.

Phai  Theravadins  has rectified this notion by the following reasoning:

(1) Th: - If this concept a lot of sense, He also must confirm that contact Thinh from merely emission of exposure, arising from Tho Thinh merely the arising of Life. Similarly for Perception,, Mind, Mindfulness, Tue, ... He denies this article ....

(2) Is He also admitted that the emitted Silence of Vision, is perceived by the ear, impact on the atrial and into the path of atrial? This he refused, he again confirmed such Thinh not perceived by atrial ... etc ... Therefore, he can conceive how the Silence?

10. LANGUAGE ISSUES FITNESS FOR THOUGHT(Nayathacittassavacatikatha)

Rate debate : Language is inconsistent with the thought (Think a way in other words).

In Note : Because someone might decide to (thinking about something) and talk about something else, so there is no conformity between thought and language. Language can operate even when there is no thought, Phai  Pubbaseliyas  have such notions.

(1) Th: - If such a concept is a spokesman beings when there is no matching contact, feeling, perception, Justice, or any public interest ownership. But surely, as he agreed to language, it emits contact, feeling ...

(2) Again, he must also deny that there is a suitable language for attention, reflection, thinking, problem-purpose center. This will not reject him. because the opposite is true.

(3) He acknowledged that the language was the dominant center, coexist with the mind, and apartments with interest. However, this contradicts his notions.

(4) Again, he himself said that there are people who say things that they do not want to talk, conversation what they do not want conversation, speaking things which they do not want to lecture.Surely the opposite case happened.

(5) P: - He said that I am wrong, but he had to admit there are people saying, conversation, speeches, for one thing, the same time, their minds can think of something else. Hence my conception can protect.

11. ISSUES FITNESS FOR ACTION Thought(Nayathacittassakayakammantikatha )

Rate debate : Action inconsistent with the idea (think of a way to do a different way).

According to Note : This concept of sect  Pubbaseliyas.

(1-3), Th: - (The same argument (1-3), 10, Chapter IX).

(4) Again, he himself admits this, a person is still moving forward, step back, and look after, anticipate, or leaning bent though they did not mean to express such action. Definitely would otherwise occur.

(5) P - He said that I am wrong, but is not a case of someone who thinks "I'll go this way," or the other way ... think "I'll handle this," the bird other animals? From my conception can protect.

12. PROBLEMS AND FUTURE PAST PRESENT POSITION (Atitanagatapaccupannakatha)

Rate debate : Experience the past and the future still exists.

In Note : Gender  Andhakas  that the level was attained Real meditation is the experience of the past and future exists in the present though not all occur simultaneously. So they conceived the past and future level of attainment Bat Zen still exists in the present.

(1) Th: - But is the past not consumed, not necrotic leaves, unaltered, not come to an end, unspent havoc?

(2) And is not the future, not become, not yet exist, no passing, no manifestations? So, how can he give that the past and future measures still really exist?

(3) There must be a person with the existence of the current aggregate of form, also aggregates of matter existence of past and future aggregates of matter? So he had to admit there are three aggregates of matter. Similarly, if a person has the existence of these five aggregates past and future years, as well as the current five aggregates (identity and identity) he admittedly has 15 aggregates ...

(4-6) The same argument for 12 origin, 18 men and 22 rights.

(7) A: - But there must be no steps have attained liberation Bat meditation can still get four Lust Zen floor, 4 floors Formless meditation (meditation is the mundane)? Therefore, it is certainly reasonable to say that past experience and future of a people still exist?

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Chapter X

1. ISSUES passing (Nirodhakatha)

Rate Debate:  Before the five aggregates search will bear not perish, neutral arise five aggregates (skandha's previous life was not dead, the five aggregates of life after birth up).

According to Note : Some sects like  Andhakas  said before subconscious ( Bhavanga ) motion to find the next new life, if a mind other than neutral and 4 aggregates aggregates of matter that have not been born, and so on the next life will be disrupted.

(1) Th: - So there must have 10 types of aggregates? And 10 types of aggregates are met in the same time? If he rejects the notion of him no longer acceptable? If he agrees, he must answer the same way on each half of each double aggregates (this as opposed to transmission).

(2) The same argument, if he maintains neutral only 4 aggregates arise, then replace "9" Aggregates for "10" aggregates.

(3) And the reasoning is the same if He maintained further insight born only arise, then replace the "6" aggregates the "9" aggregates.

(4) A .: - When the 5 aggregates search cell birth and death process, there should not arise Path?

Th: - Yes.

A: - There must be a dead person, the special make-mail developing Way?

2. IDENTITY AND FRANCE ethical problems(Rupammaggotikatha)

Rate Debate:  Career Excellence's legal practice is the Noble Eight-Path is included in it.

According to Note : The sect  Mahimsasakas, Sammitiyas  and  Mahasanghikas  said three remaining major expenditure, Chief Justice and Chief of Section Sac legal network. In fact, for the expenses of this religion is purely nomenclature is not material.

(1) Th: - He also acknowledged that the legal Sac (like steering) means a situation known, has features such as a great memory, attention, the attention, the decision, he refused this and say exactly the opposite definitely a new concept of sense.

(2-3) The three directors (which he said had contact with legal Sac) is right speech, right action, right livelihood, as he has admitted being legal does not know the scene, did not have the characteristics of nomenclature told on.

(4-5) Instead he admitted spending in other direction Right, Right Thought, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness and Right Concentration - are the scenes info and legal characteristics aforementioned nomenclature.

(6-7) If He confirmed the absence of these features in 3 detailed nomenclature religion Right Speech, Right Action, Right Livelihood, He also must confirm directing the remaining 5 - Right ... Right Concentration - nor have properties that nomenclature.

(8) MSM: - But he acknowledged that Right Speech, Right Action and Right Livelihood are the direct expenses (and have the legal expression of Excellence). So he definitely ranks Sac's legal practice is also included in the Noble Path.

3. ISSUES AND MILITARY WAY evangelism(Pancavinnanasamangimaggabhavanakatha)

Rate Debate:  A Career Path can realize while enjoying the scene from five formula.

According to Note:  Some sects like  Mahasanghikas , with references from passages "when a person identity by label, he does not hold general minister, who does not hold its own minister ...." Should have conceived present. In this thesis, seconded  Theravadin s were rectify that opinion.

(1) Th: - But does he have to accept that:

i - Five consciousness arises by shifting into animals and objects arise.
ii - materials and objects that form the premise for contingent arise.
iii - is a legal materials inside, while the object is outside the law, and for animals object still exists.
iv - Materials and objects are two different types.
v - Materials and entities not entitled to the same scene.
micro - materials and objects do not work the same.
vii - materials and objects are not in harmony (respectively) together.
viii - Materials and objects not in chronological order (different being destroyed).
ix - materials and objects are not consecutive order.
x - materials and objects are not the same itinerary trinomial

If all this is true, his conception is rational can not be.

(2) Survey consciousness center and one of the objects of the Path - The kill  (1)  there must be heart consciousness related to "kill" it? If he refused, he himself contradicts his view, if he agrees, it must be said that the teaching was not only due to the label and the scenery, eye-consciousness arises, "but also" because the label and the Kill , consciousness arises "? are there texts like that? of course not.

(3) Again, if his concept is rational, he also had to admit that consciousness arise related to the past and future. It arise not merely because of the scenery, but also contact Promotion, Feeling, Perception, Will, Heart, Label, Turkey, Rate, Damage, Body and Identity, Silence, Perfume, Place, Promotion. The above recognition can not happen.

(4) Now, he can admit that, contingent on the mode of delivery to contact the Kill, contact past and future, related to mental processes, related to the factors of enlightenment.

And a person who is entitled to his enlightenment while five informal contact any of matter, but not during the course of the five awarded scene mode, people are realizing there is no direct connection with such material.

(4) M .: - But did the Buddha had been like this or what theory: "Monks, monks found by label color, he does not hold the general minister, who does not hold its own minister .. . hear ... touch ... smell ... taste ... "?  (1)

Here, surely directed towards the realization of a contingent of people who are enjoying the informal landscape.

4. ISSUES OF MILITARY moral character FORMULA(Pancavinnana kusalapitikatha)

Rate debate : Five formula is wholesome or unwholesome.

According to Note : In Annotation, no analysis of this argument.

(1-3), Th: - (Like X, 3 (1-3) Here the theory of knowledge is limited to five years the scene, taking into account material and spiritual ethics related to intellect, lead...

(4) M .: - But did the Buddha did not each theory that "Monks, in law and, when monks seen by label color, he does not hold the general minister, who does not hold private minister ... to hear ... "?

Therefore, make sure the army is moral and immoral form.

5. HOW AND MILITARY ISSUES Phuoc (Pancavinnanasabhogati Katha)

Rate debate : Five formula also is blessed  (Sabhoga)  (2)

According to Note : This concept of sect  Mahasangbikas . In fact, just the new world consciousness moral or immoral deeds and related knowledge is blessed also ranks as nothing is signed. (Theory identical arguments before, x.2)

6. THE PRINCIPLES OF GENDER ISSUES LAW (Duthi Silehisamannagatotikatha)

Rate debate : Tier maturing in parallel practice religion are two kinds of precepts (mundane and supramundane Agreement).

In Note : From Universal needles of Exalted: "When one place in the world wonderful success, he attains liberation" (1)   a few sects as  Mahasanghikas  that a developing morality Path not the worldly, the legal precepts of this world that you attained simultaneously both legal rules and export world legal world.

(1) Th: - So, he has to accept that this level has both law presented with two excavators, two Tho, two Remembrance, two capacitors, two-center, two Tin, two required, two Niem, two Dinh , two-Tue.

(2) If this is the world of mundane level, the development process is also mundane religion.

(3-5) If this level is presented by both (the Agreement and Superman's world), the process would be both, contact, feeling ... that he has gone through will be both mundane and super world - of course he rejects this ...

(4-6) In his view, he said that (i) A mature Path mundane world practice of the three remaining major expenditure, Chief Justice and right livelihood, but not in directing the remaining years ( ii) In three detailed guidance both mundane and supra-mundane world, but the years spent directing, after it just does. According to our conception, he must acknowledge all that is directing the Noble Eightfold Path.

(7) M .: - But is the Way the World mundane born to perish?

Sat .: - Yes, it was.

M .: - There must be a person with no sex, lack of sex, broken world, world pollution may develop Path is?

Sat .: - No, can not say that about ...

7. OWNERSHIP AND GENDER ISSUES FOCUS (Silam acetasikantikatha)

Rate debate : Sex with nature (and not as a property interest).

According to Note : This concept of sect  Mahasanghikas , said given the world, though the world was destroyed, there is still the master of the world and people act becomes moral. This point is similar to the problem Giving is not an ownership interest. (XII.4).

(1) Th: - But there must be both a material world, just as Nirvana, or both a label of origin, both originating body (because of this approach is the opposite approach to the ownership interest).

(2) You can not call the contact, feeling, perception, Investment, Loan, Need, mindfulness, concentration and wisdom, the mind is non-ownership. But if you can not identify About the nomenclature is not legal, it must be a mind owning so ...

(3-5) If the world is not an ownership interest, He had to admit that the world is no perceived effect then, does the opposite, it is not justified reasonable? But if presented with satisfactory results the wedding, it is a physical world ... Owning Hy heart had likely outcome is perceived, both as a nomenclature. nhann redundancy in this, He also must confirm the world has both of those qualities.But on the contrary, he gives that joy was presented with results likely aware, but not a nomenclature.

(6-8) Again, if the world is not a property of interest law, then he must admit it has no independent effect horror; There must not be seen as a world syntax such results do not? Is He not also the notion that gender non nomenclature and inability to produce results as he has admitted in the case of an apartment or a ceiling? Again, he could not believe that these measures have non nomenclature such results; however, this is what he said about the world: - About both non nomenclature, are both likely to result.

(9-10) With the survey of the Noble Eightfold Path, he called three steering related to gender are non nomenclature, and in other expenditure as nomenclature.

(11) M .: - But if I'm wrong, he must accept that the action by the world away, that person becomes immoral actions. Did he refuse this? Therefore, I am very rational to say that gender is not the ownership interest.

8. GENDER AND HEART PROBLEMS (Silam nacittanuparivattitikatha )

Rate debate : Gender does not act in conformity with the mind.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Mahasanghikas,  similar arguments on.

(1-5) Theories like X.7

9. LIFE ISSUES ABOUT PRAYER AND GENDER(Samadanahetukakatha )

Rate debate : About growth depending on how prayer life.

In Note : Due to the lack of care to refer verse "Because the cultivation of plants in the garden and shade trees to provide extra benefits for many people", therefore it can be said "Merit as growth" , some sects as  Mahasanghikas  gender concept is also the natural growth when life expectancy morality is voluntary, not depending on the industry. This argument is similar to the classic arguments before.

(1-4) The same argument as 5, XII, "The growth depending on how prayer life" instead of "Joy comes from almsgiving ... enjoying life growth", in subsection (3) "the alms "are replaced by" who practice the virtues of life. "

TABLE 10. TRI AND GENDER ISSUES (Vannattisilantikatha)

Rate debate : These actions are tri gender expression.

According to Note : The sect  Mahasanghikas  and  Sammitiyas  that "the body is the body tri now, tri-gate is verbal expression," they believe that such actions of industrial properties. In fact, the expression of body and tri-gate is only rupa, while the virtues of the world is not like that.

(1) Th: - These virtues are called away from the world as killing, stealing away, stay away as well in education, away lying, stay away from alcohol - Is He admitted this is the way of the prophet? He can not admit such ...

These act as a bow to the knowledge, how exalted, how hands, reverentially, offered a couch, a water wash your feet, how to shoes, a shawl for bath ... Do all things this is not the world? He agreed. But he can not admit they are five precepts are.

(2) MS: - But if actions are not the intellectual world, they are non-gender does not? Otherwise they are presented so.

TABLE 11. TRI INCIDENTAL ISSUES AND AFRICA WORLD(Avinnattidussilyantikakatha)

Rate debate : The action is very Popular tri transgression.

In Note : Gender  Mahasanghikas  with this concept because based on hoarding offenses (in the past) and the fact that a good idea might be targeted by corrupt instigation of others.

(1) Th: - But transgression as killing, stealing, sexual misconduct in, lie, drink - Is He said that these are the very manner of the prophet did not? He refused (Thus we are the voters, and thus some evil deed is the prophet).

(2) If a person by giving unwholesome thoughts, then in this way, blessings and sins of this increase?If he agrees. He will be confused when there are two types of certification in conflict with the mind at the same time. And if he agrees, he said that there are moral and immoral, despicable and sublime, the mind and the mind in light opaque exist in the same time. Meanwhile, the Exalted has declared them far from each other as heaven and earth ...

(3) Likewise, for all the good expression of an action by unwholesome thoughts.

(4) M .: - But he had to admit that an evil deed is done by voluntary life over the world not? Therefore, a lot of sense to say that the intellectual wealth of good ideas can be evil deed.

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Chapter XI

1. ISSUES VARY MIEN (Tissopianusayakatha )

Rate debate : Custom Hypnosis is neutral, depending Hypnosis is inhumane, depending hypnosis dissociation with interest.

In Note : Options include seven legal newspapers, loving, wrong, good friendship, hatred, suspicion, arrogance and ignorance. The problem is conceived in three aspects: (i) Options Hypnosis is neutral (ii); Depending Hypnosis is inhumane; (iii) Any corresponds to the heart. This is the concept of sect Mahasanghika s and seconded  Sammitiyas , they asserted that is not justified that an ordinary person while neutral moral consciousness or mind going with Custom Hypnosis, like what kind of mind could not be created so depending newspapers, nor swear cumot coordinate with any free public option.

DEPENDING long as unselfish

(1)  Theravadin s: - Is He wants to identify with any free Depending nothing is signed yet - as with heterosexual mature fruit, with up well, with sharp or relatives, with Nirvana, with labels of origin, atrial origin , reducing the land, damage the land, itself origin, identity of origin, silent origin, native parish, the parish, parish contact? Of course he denies this.

(2-8) Again, taking a 7 Depending free - unless he can prove that every different depending on the type of hypnosis or corresponding level from the slopes of aces each as blessed, saved upsurge, fetters, disturb brain, the particular legal status is certainly immoral, he could not call the corresponding method of customization is free neutral approach though it is craving, or anger, conceit, wrong, skeptical, bhava or ignorance.

(9)  Mahasanghikas  and  Sammitiyas : - Well done, but he had said that ordinary people in mind when thinking of good or neutral with Custom Hypnosis Center is not?

Th: - Well, true.

MS: - So does he mind the notion that good and evil to appear together in a kind of care?

Th: - No, can not say that.

MS: - So Custom Hypnosis is such that nothing is signed.

Th: - You have to look further and be forced to admit that craving is neutral (when notions like) and he will agree that the ordinary person to think in moral or neutral mind it while there is no arising of participating units or units participating workers.

DEPENDING long as inhumane  (1)

(10) Th: - He can not be identified with any free Depending reality (see Part 1), these realities have been recognized as independent workers, and he can prove that any Depending on how hypnosis species also differ in the type and extent of "progress". "Ace blessed", "express store", "fetters, gonorrhea or ..." These cars definitely with human greed, hatred and delusion ...

(11) MS: - He said that hypnosis is not a legal Depending ungainly by this private key, and he maintains that ordinary people in mind when thinking good or neutral, depending Hypnosis Center is still hidden in the meantime . But he again refused from Custom Hypnosis is compounded by any one's fate does cooperate with his mind. So make sure that Custom Hypnosis is inhumane methods.

Th: - He accepts that there is still an ordinary person with kindness in thinking of good and neutral mind. But he again declined charity is facilitated by personnel involved and associated with this personnel, therefore, according to him, charity is inhumane. This is really absurd.

DEPENDING corresponding to the domain regardless CENTER

(12-19) - Arguments like IX, 4 (1-8), replace "dissociation" or "associated with heart" for "non-dissociation" or "scene nomenclature".

(20) MS - He admitted that the ordinary person is still free while thinking Depending moral consciousness or mind in neutral. But he again refused that corresponds Depending newspapers with such heart. So, make sure that Custom Hypnosis dissociation with interest.

Th: - As he admits, if such a person still has compassion in mind when thinking with moral or immoral, his denial of charity is not coordinated with that mind; it is not necessary to lead to a false conclusion that the dissociation affinity with the mind.

2. PROPERTY ISSUES (Nanakatha)

Rate debate : There is a mistake to say that "there Career Wisdom" when the mind is not the appropriate steps with wisdom, although this level has the total extinction of ignorance.

Explanatory notes : - Gender  Mahasanghikas , said that a total annihilation of ignorance by Career Path Property is undergoing normal perception by the senses, while it can not be said that this level "with wisdom" because religion does not mind being smoke. This view shows the absurdity of the problems of a saint, as well as the mistakes attributed to his level of knowledge, the knowledge level was attained.

(1)  Theravadins : - If the concept as such, he has to admit is not reasonable to say that when a person falls away loving annihilation charity: similar to hatred, or anything disturbing in general .

(2) However, if he maintains that the rational notion of accepting the following, it is absurd to say that ignorance of a people perish, while the center of dissociation that with this level insight, skill level is there.

(3)  Mahasanghikas : - But if there is reasonable to say that about someone, it is within the scope of knowledge the past? He had been told that "there Tier Property" were consumed by the knowledge, has gone, has not subsided? He denies this ...

3. PROPERTY AND HEART PROBLEMS DAILY REVIEWS ( ÑAnam Cittavippapyuttantikatha)

Rate debate : Knowledge ( Nana ) dissociation with interest.

Explanatory notes : Gender  Pubbaseliyas  that an Arhat, who have knowledge while he enlightened level, can go through the sensory perception of dissociation with the knowledge, so knowledge of dissociation the average center-to-date. This concept says if Tue dissociation with the mind, it must be identified with one of the other measures in addition to interest. In short, this notion that the average time-to-date knowledge of an Arhat dissociation with the knowledge he so Tue dissociation with average interest date.

(1)  Theravadins:  - But is he prepared to determine that the knowledge that knowledge (with any kind of public legal recognition) is dissociation with the mind, with excellent, with Nirvana or the origin ... ? It's rather rare ...! Or is he not prepared to declare that wisdom is not like any other kind of Tri? If he would like to admit Tri Tue rights, Tue forces, Right, scouts legal enlightenment, then it must have the appropriate Site and in connection with the care?

(2) Again, as we agreed Tue, again included in operating aggregates.

(3) Likewise for the position. Both corresponds to the heart. So can any knowledge of the dissociation with the mind is reasonable?

(4) Therefore, if he maintains that Tri Tue and both are volitional, has dissociation with the mind, he would have to admit that the formations, in part, it corresponds to the center, part of the estate corresponding. Of course he denies this.

(5)  Pubbaseliyas : - So there must be recognition that he ranks Arhat, who see, hear ... might call "intellectual level there is" reasonable?

Th: - Well, can call that way.

P: - But is this knowledge corresponds to mind consciousness, ear consciousness that?

Th: - No, can not say so.

P: - So my argument given can stand vung.4

Th: - But a similar argument, replace "position" for "understanding". And he has confirmed that there is a correspondence between mind and heart-to-date average.

4. ISSUES PRONUNCIATION "THIS IS LINE"(Idandukkhantikatha)

Rate debate : - When pronounced, "This is suffering"  (1)  , cognitive mental suffering still exists.

Explanatory notes : Gender  Andhakas  that this occurred at a religion is attained, this mission through the debate, has acknowledged both the pronunciation and the existence in the same time. In the last question, this sect was answered by the negative, they do not recognize that there Tue spell known as "It-is-suffering"  (2)

(1 ) Theravadins : - But he refused as above for three different substrates: This is a collection, This is Kill, This is the Way. Why?

(2) Why to reject three other substrates which accept only the First Emperor

(3) Or, why would He find realistic Tue Rejecting the impermanence of every aggregates (in the five aggregates - and matter).

(4) Moreover, the knowledge that as true selflessness of every aggregates.

(5-6) Based on the reason that only he can advocate for a case?

(7) Does he want to tell me that it is hard to say for each rhyme "K ... H ... drive" the wisdom will exist.

A: - No, can not say that about.

5. ISSUES THAN HUMAN RESOURCES (Iddhibalakatha)

Rate debate : its Tier clairvoyance can live in an eons (of the earth)

Explanatory notes : This is a misconception of the sect  Mahasanghikas , due to misunderstanding from kappa (mean time, period, life, earth life) in popular texts "Mahaparinirvana". In this text Kappa is not used in the sense "Kiep earth" which means "life". Psychic power, speaking notes, can only avoid the death sudden death.

(1)  Theravadins : - If so, then the concept has to be this person's life, there must be some of the network has had to report this man's body under the psychic achievement did not? That is what he had to admit in this opinion.

And He has estimated eons as past or as future? And why he limited himself just one eons? Why not say that this level can live for 2, 3, 4 eons?

(2) Again, did he want to say that this level live widening in the rest of life while living the life or this level for the rest of life when there is no life?

Mahasanghikas:  - Tier he can live the rest of life, while still lives.

Th: - So make sure that this level can not be living in a University life.

M - This was right when he is no longer the life level.

Th: - What! Tier she could live despite death, despite mortality stars?

(3) Is it possible that with the attainment of spiritual powers, he can maintain the heart in a time not perish having been born to the Promotion, Feeling, Perception, Will, ...?

(4) Is it possible that with the attainment of spiritual powers, was able to maintain tier 1 in 5 aggregates are not permanent?

(5) Or, can do with psychic force, steps that can protect (a) these beings are born not to be born again?or (b) the beings appliances were old again? (C) the sick beings do not get sick any more, or (d) dies beings do not die anymore?

(6) M. But did the Buddha has declared: "Behold ANADA, who has practiced, steady development, maturity, iddhipada virtuosity, if you want this level can prolong survival eons always a better a life. " (1)   Does not protect the views that I have given back?

(7) Th: - But is Exalted has declared "Hey monks, not a monk, Brahmin, deva,  Māra , brahma or anyone in the world can be safe (patibhoge) for four measures. What four? the nature is old, hope that is not old, not a recluses, Brahmin, God's ... for this approach. " Ill nature, hoping that no disease, not a monk, Brahmin heavenly ... for this approach. Dying wish that nature is not dead, not a monk, Brahmin ... for this approach. Suffering evil fruit of that now, contamination, rebirth, brings sorrow (Sadarani) gave birth to independent elderly suffering allergic result, die in the future, the result of her desire that now does not exist, not a monk, Brahmin, God's,  Māra , Brahma or anyone in the world has been the safety of this approach ... "?  (1)

There must have all of this? From here, it is not rational to say that clairvoyance level, can live in an eons.

6. ISSUES suspension (Samadhikatha)

Rate debate : The continuity of mind is called the heart of.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Sabbatthivadins  and  Uttarapathakas,  due to the understanding of the passages "Over seven days and nights, the body estate, estate gate, in the attainment of the supreme". Continuous stream of consciousness flowing, itself can constitute a concentration. They do not understand that the centering means peace of the mind (to a point), the concentration capacity  (kaggata) arise toward a single object in a single mind moment. It is essential for each of mind.

(1)  Theravadin s: - This view of him, of course, include a continuous state of mind of the past and into the future as well. You must agree to the past is what is killing the future and what is not born, but he forgot that there is ridiculous to say the status gas constantly arise from past and future is the mentality of "now in".

(2)  Sabbatthiradin s and  Uttarapathakas:  - If so, then there must be limited concentration in a single mind it?

Th: - Well, true.

SU: - But if he can determine that the concentration is only included in every single mind, he also said that a person should not be able to enter meditation in the case of any kind is present, or while thinking with the immoral corresponds to love, hatred, or any one of ten disturbing.

(3) Th: - If his argument given is rational, it is also reasonable that any one of a series of continuous moment is always immoral concentration, whether it corresponds to Sincerely, golf or any one of the ten afflictions. This He refused.

(4) SU: - But if we're wrong, there must Blessed ever uttered: "Hey Nigantha Jains, Tathagata can not shake miracles, speech not speaking, life enjoyment seven days night "  (2)  . Thus, make sure that the continuous stream of consciousness constitute concentration.

7. OF THE FRENCH anticipated (Dhammatthitatakatha)

Rate Debate:  Causes of the law was to be expected.  (2)

Explanatory notes : This concept of sect  Andhakas , derived from the verse "O Bhikkhus. Oil of such future appears or does not appear, was residing as gender identity, his true nature legal resident, decided legal nature she, her dependence nature ... "  (3)   and cross connections within binary approach is a causal factor, such as a human (the other was born) and so the law is to be expected.Phai  Theravadins  explained that if the law is to be expected by a different person, this person is also anticipated in a more ...

(1)  Theravadins : - If you like the concept, it's the staff must be foreseen (in the alternative)? He refused, but if he agrees, then himself he had determined that because of the ongoing continuous never cessation of karmic, so never make an end to the cessation of suffering, the cessation rotation recovery, and no Nirvana, no liberation from the cycle of birth and death ...

(2) Again, there must be a person of any public aggregates (rupa) can be anticipated?

If he accepts, he must also determine that the human self it was anticipated by the other, and if he refused, he himself must accept that if predestined no termination will not have the make an end to suffering, no cessation of reincarnation, no nirvana.

8. ISSUES Supreme (Aniccatakatha)

Rate debate : Impermanence is anticipated.

Explanatory notes : This view of sex  Andhakas .

(1-3)  Theravadins:  - If you like the concept, impermanence is anticipated by the predetermined impermanence. And if he accepted it, he implies that there is no cessation of suffering, no cessation of reincarnation, no nirvana. Both aging and death is impermanent phenomena.

(4-5) (Get impermanent phenomena in the five aggregates, and matter) Sac certainly to be expected and has the characteristics of impermanence as the elderly, death, rebirth. But he could not confirm all this is impermanent, death or the death it is impermanent particularly for aggregates therefore also similar.

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Chapter XII

1. ISSUES AND NOW ENDED INCOME (Samvarokammantikatha)

Rate debate : The receiver end is now.

Explanatory notes : The concept of sect  Mahasanghikas , based on passages "Hey monks, monks when the eye sees color, does not hold general minister, who does not hold its own minister. These cause, because eyesense not tame, that craving, giving, compassion, evil evil arises law, tame monks under his reasons ... to hear scandalous, sniff it ... taste ... tongue tasted emotional body ... aware of the legal standard "... this Mission that both the receiver and the desired end receiver end are called now.According to the teachings of the Buddha taught, is now the new volition. That confirms that the volition precedes action, speech and thought (body, speech and mind); if the receiver is finished now and it goes in the other mode is called label now, atrial ... Because now there is no argument from the scriptures, opposition recorded only point of consciousness only with things 5 (consciousness) here, they are reluctant to use the word  Kaya  meaning "feeling body" and "the voters themselves."

And business is evidenced only related to acquisitions and the non-collection of end finish, not now, so do not bring to a conclusion.

(1)  Theravadins:  - If such views, he must imply that the receiver's end label brands right now, and for other things also, he can not accept this ... But the collection including the collection end end end of the body and collected, he first refused it now, but then later he agreed to it now. So why does not he accept this with four remaining awake? Tools which he confirmed was reasonable for the industry, He also must confirm the same for the remaining years of knowledge.

(2) Of course, he admitted that the will of the receiver end is also now. Is now when the receiver end label is not done by the label right? (Theory as part (1)).

(3)  Mahasanghikas: -  But if I'm wrong, there must be Exalted has declared that "Here, monks and monks, monks when the eyes see color, do not hold the general minister, who does not hold its own minister. these cause, because eyesense not be tamed, that craving offers compassion, evil evil arises legal, reasons monks tame him ... when the ear heard ... the nose smelling incense .. .. tongue tastes ... emotional body ... the awareness of law ... "

2. ISSUES NOW (Kammakatha)

Rate debate : All the results are now  (vipāka).

Explanatory notes : The concept of the sect also  Mahasanghikas , based on the passages cited above.Although Buddha preached volition is now  (Kamma ) here only private ownership with moral or immoral mind are the result, while private ownership with neutral center is not for results. And business is evidenced not brought to a conclusion, because this mission is based on the experiences of normal life results without giving to the grace necessary.

(1)  Theravadins:  - Is He implies that all investment property are the results? If he rejects the argument given him no effect generally is. If he implies that private ownership for results, he has to accept for this: private ownership for results resultant neutral facilities owned the independent horror brought to the resultant good results, although the numbers such private property be done with any of the three worlds ... (1)   All these things he must renounce.

(2) Is He not the notion that Bosnian private and well-known result is that nothing is signed, which, according to him, they have the ability to work. But really, the possibility that results could not have been for such investment property. Therefore, in any case, that his concept can be applied universally?

(3) But if I'm wrong, there must be Exalted has declared: "Monks declared that now we have volition, did, have accumulated, if not feeling (the result) of no termination, the outcome was even arise in the present or in the next life. "  (2)  . Thus, make sure all the results are now.

3. ISSUES AND RESULTS Thinh (Saddovipakotikatha)

Rate debate : Silence is the result (of the industry).

Explanatory notes : The concept of the sect also  Mahasanghikas , from understanding not careful in the following passage, "... A voice like Brahma, so now did, was contained."

This opinion addresses the issue of "fruits of karma" is a word that applies to only the nomenclature, which does not apply to material. In this passage, "The Voice of Brahma" like an entourage to follow great being that is not effective, or of any particular industry.

(1)  Theravadins:  - The object can be identified as a result of now? Such a result is pleasant, unpleasant, or indifferent non-touch. Thinh corresponds to the three kinds, Thinh corresponds to contact, feeling, perception, private, views, silent scene know, there is a great memory, have heart trouble, some issues addressed. There must be a legal silence in the law mentioned above? There must not be otherwise?

(2) Now take ownership of business results and exposure is very rational to confirm that the property has been any contact characteristic mentioned above, and this can not be wrong. But to silence the opposite.

(3)  Mahasanghikas  - But if I'm wrong there must have urged Exalted "A voice like brahma, such as voice or nightingale, is due to have done now, now has contained"?  ( 2).

Therefore, make sure that silence is a special effect now.

4. ISSUES OF CONTENTS INCOME (Salayatanakatha)

Rate debate : is the result of industrial sixfold.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Mahasanghikas , they believe arise with record entry of industrial action in the past, therefore, it is the fruits (understood as the said scene, or nomenclature).With the integration, can be considered as a result, while the other did not enter.

(1-4) The reasoning as Point 3, "Italian entry"  (manayatana)  be replaced.

5. LIMITATION ON HOW THE CLASS INTERIOR REGENERATES LAI (Sattakkhattuparamakatha)

Moot point : One is called with your ability level is reborn seven times more new maximum certainly attained Arhat Saturday results in life.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Uttarapathakas .

(1)  Theravadins:  - Are such steps capable of patricide, matricide, killing Arhat, Buddha finger prick, or break increased harmony? He refused ...

(2) And is this level can not afford realizations during the quarter-soles between seven lifetimes? So this level can not become perpetrators were five grave, and this level can not be reborn in a woeful.

Now, he agreed to acknowledge that this level can not afford to enlightenment. Then he implies that this level could commit such sins as an ordinary person, but he has refused.

(3) There must be a certain rule for future steps required Interior reborn all seven times? He refused.So given his opinion can not stand. In other words, does he believe that the forty-quarterfinals primary needs, such as the quarter-sufficiency, the five senses, the five continents, Interior enlightenment is retained with that level of rebirth next time?

(4) Does not have otherwise? and the like, how he can sustain his arguments are given?

(5) He maintains that such a step does not retain the support of religion, unless he is a Stream level.But if all these steps are required to attain the Paths reborn seven times not?

(6)  Uttarapathakas:  - He said that I am wrong, but he also acknowledged there are problems with or without a press upper tier hybrid Failure? then there must in my view certainly not rational?  (1)

6. FUTURE ISSUES OF CLASS PROJECT FLOW SCHEDULE(Kalankola ekavijikatha)

(1)  Uttarapathakas: -  Again, if he said that there is a mistake to assume that the future of a Stream Luc  (Kolankola ) that rebirth is limited to 2 to 6 times. Does he called Second Career Project Save hybrid, Tam Lai Lai expected to save ... Luc The Save?

(2) And there must khongco Career Project Save Nhat Lai  (Ekabijin)  given back again being reasonable?

7. ISSUES ABOUT ORGANIC SCHOOL CLASS OF BIRTH SURVEY (1)  (Jivitavoropanakatha) 

Rate debate : The attainment of knowledge  (1)  (grade school property) can transgress willfully born with.

Explanatory notes : - This concept of sect  Pubbaseleyas , said one witness reached by knowledge but not completely make an end to hatred and thus should you have the remorse of killing with his heart.Therefore he deliberately when the killing.

(1) If so, then his concept implies that this position can patricide, matricide, killing Arhat, Buddha or break bleeding harmony ... with the intention increased.

(2) Furthermore, he said that this position does not honor the Buddha, Dharma and Sangha or school section.

(3) On the other hand, while he still knew that this position has the opposite action.

(4) He said that this person might contaminate or hurting the Buddha statues, destroying the sacred nature of the Buddha, spit saliva where stupa, behaving like a nonbelievers when faced with It was an image?

(5) But does Buddha have urged "Monks, as a great sea preserve infinite, so he Thinh Chu problem from our study could not take it though because we had regulatory net live (which do) "?  (2)

How rational is not to say that people who attain knowledge could transgression with the deliberate killing is.

8. ISSUES wrong tendencies
CHIEF OF COMMENTS  (Duggatikatha)

Rate debate : A person having the right view, the wrong tendencies are eliminated.

Explanatory notes : This concept of sect  Uttarapathakas .

(1-4)  Theravadins:  - But he acknowledged that such a person can still take on in any color, hearing, smelling, taste, touch yet. In hell he might play the harlot with the non-pointed, she animalzxy, her dragon, assets of the world such as goats, chickens, pigs, elephants, cattle, horses, mules, birds, fish, heron, the , worship. If he agreed to all of this, given his conception can not stand. Moreover, he can not accept all this for an Arhat, vice versa. He rejected this with Arhat level, while he would accept this for people with the right view.

(5)  Uttarapathakas:  - If I'm wrong, there must Himself implies that a person has right view can be reborn in hell, hell realms animalzxy or demons? If he refused, he also withdrew the contradiction in his argument.

9. COMMENTS OF CLASS tendency to tighten(Sattamabhavikakatha)

Rate debate : For a hybrid, it ranks Interior wrong tendencies are eliminated.

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