CHAPTER III
1. ISSUES AS THE FUTURE CAPACITY (Balakatha)
Rate Debate: Chu Thinh problems are Tathagata Buddha Force.
According to Note: This concept of sect Andhakas , comes from a survey mistake Corresponding passages in the sutras Anuradha: "This venerable, I practice and development of mindfulness Quartet, with the knowledge learned origin and non origin ... "
This is the power Tathagata Cross, this sect believe that even the Buddhists Sravaka some are full of this force, some are only one part of this force. Actually all you Arhat (Buddha and issue from Thinh Chu) are long to take intelligent, but only the Buddha of Wisdom Upper lower base (the Five Rights) know the extent of the right to development . With the wisdom to know the causes and conditions of the remaining legal and 7 force, as knowledge is not limited to hybrid (Hotel Circuit Set strain) remains silent problem from only come to know of only one restriction ( padesena) . Chu problem from silence can only manifestation of this wisdom, the Tathagata can also lectured about them. But the sect Andhakas that all 10 Tathagata force to monks Thinh share issue from which he directed.
(1) Theravadins : - If his position is rational, he has to accept the Tathagata is Sravaka human resources and vice versa, any human force of 10 is Tathagata and his forces must also accept that way gathering, celibate, how to lead, how to lecture (which no one had previously found) a disciple of yours Sravaka just Tathagata. But of course he refused this.
(2) He has agreed Tathagata is the One Victory, God Sphinx, the chief variable-knowing, all ants, Omniscient, Career Education Chairman. But he does not accept this title for the issue from silent. He will not admit to the noble disciple as he has admitted to the Tathagata, who found no one had found religion, who lectured on preaching Christianity, who saw, who knows about religion no one saw, no one knew and no one enlightened realization.
(3) If he accepts a Force 10 Tathagata is the knowledge to know the excesses and inadequacies of Rights, he has to accept a Buddhist Thinh problem is also all-knowing and all levels is so.
(4) Andhakas: - But he will admit that if a problem from Thinh distinguish exactly what type of origin, and non-parish is legal, it is rational to assume that this force is human knowledge common to all Tathagata Silence and word problems. This he refused.
(5) Again, he will admit that if a problem from Thinh understand the causal and non-causal (now the retribution of unfortunate past, future and present) is very reasonable to assume that the knowledge Force gauges this is a general force for both hybrid and Thinh as word problems. This he also refused.
(6-11) Similarly, Tue force said all beneficiaries (the path to all of the realm), the world knows there are many types and false statements, know the direction of drug beings according to the career, learn how to attain the jhaanas (charity, Path meditation, Sanming, in his glossary Buddhaghosa ) and the contaminants, the purity or dangerous situations (in the way of export or import) Meditation, know the past life (Additional intelligent network), knowing the birth and death of beings (samsara) key. All human wisdom, if a problem from enlightened silence was as enlightened as hybrid, it is common to force the issue from both Silence and Omniscient, but he also refused.
(12) Finally, it's smart to take a micro Gonorrhea Sravaka A disciple is not like an intelligent Gonorrhea Take Omniscient? Or is there a difference between the death of an Omniscient and the death of a problem from Thinh? Or are there differences between the liberation of an Omniscient, and the liberation of a problem from Thinh? He refused? Therefore, make sure our views are rational.
(13) Again, he has accepted that an Omniscient has Tue comprehended as facts about the cessation of the taints and a Thinh issue from such knowledge also. But he will not accept this, although surely he must accept the case Tue known causal and non-causal, parish and non-parish ... as well as the birth and death of beings.
(14) He confirmed that Tathagata's power of discrimination and non-causal know the grace received, this is the problem from Silence can not get yet He must refuse to take intelligent Gonorrhea cases as well as for the remaining 8 cases force.
(15) Again, he accepted that the hybrid force is the knowledge as distinguished from excesses and inadequacies of human rights and Wisdom is not a problem from Thinh always get. But he will not accept like to know the causal knowledge and non-causal ... Take Ming and Lau (left back, where he could see only these forces in general).
(16) On the other hand, he accepted a force for both knowledge and Thinh Tathagata capacitor problem, which is the knowledge of known causes and conditions? Take Ming and Gonorrhea. But he does not accept a general force for both knowledge is the knowledge to know how to excesses and inadequacies of Rights. What this means?
2. CLASS PROPERTY OF SAINT LUC (Ariyantikatha)
Rate Debate: As hybrid force is common wisdom of the sages as parish and non-parish knew ... (1)
Explanatory notes: In the aforementioned ten Tathagata force, not the final force (gonorrhea take intelligent) that the 9 remaining capacity is also common for the sages force. That is the view of Andhakas .
(1) Theravadins: - If so he should also accept this force is Noble, Sainthood, Nirvana, one of four directors, one of four results, one of the Four Foundations of Mindfulness, Right Exertion, Tu Nhu Y Additional , Sleep Right, Sleep Seven power or enlightenment. But he does not agree to this.
(2) Or is the knowledge of dissolution is the subject of this force? (Tue Killing two: Aggregates and Nirvana) if he refused he can not accept his opinion. If he agrees, he also had to accept that a person is focusing its practice also focuses on knowledge of dissolution. If he refused, he can not accept the knowledge of dissolution is the subject of this force as in his opinion. If he agrees, he also must be stated that there are two excavators, two heart - This is, of course, he refused (2)
(3) The same argument applies spending two other concepts as "Unknown certificate" and "African cabinet" (3)
(4) Or the opposite argument he admitted four foundations of mindfulness is the saint's approach, with subjects such as the concept of "Destruction", "Unknown certificate", "Non-local". But he rejected these objects are the subject of hybrid forces As. Thus, hybrid power As unclassifiable as general means for the sages. (The translation: For just 37 saint and not the assistant director for all 10 power needs of the Tathagata).
(5) The same reasoning applies equally well to the Right Exertion, Tu Nhu Y Additional ... Seven enlightenment.
(6) Andhakas: - He said that my views are wrong, meaning that no human power hybrid As General for the sages and no objects like "Kill", "Unknown certificate" and "African cabinet ". But he does not deny that six aforementioned legal measures of saint and also the three subjects. So why would he deny the same power in my opinion issued?
(7) Th: - Why has the concept a hybrid force in 10 As force, known as the Wisdom of the birth and death of beings is the common force saint, while he did not classify this into legal force which we call the law of the saint - like Path, Fruit ...
(8-12) The reasoning in the section (2-6) is repeated for the views of sects Andhakas - The other force in its 10 As hybrid, such as being out of Wisdom comprehended beings ... that's legal saint.
(13) A: - He acknowledges As hybrid force in its 10th (Take Ming Lau) is a legal of the saint, but he again refused this force in the case of the two forces mentioned above. How he can determine Take Ming Lau is the 10th power?
(14) Gender Andhakas deny this case.
(15-16) As in (13, 14) with the addition of the concept of "Destruction", "no evidence" and "non-local" as "objects", that these things belong to the Legal Career St.
3. ISSUES Liberation (Vimuccatikatha)
Rate Debate: "The achievement of liberation" is associated with heart affinity protect ... (1)
According to Note : This concept of sect Andhakas , for that liberation means mind bound by craving are craving to escape just as the stains on clothes are disinfected after washing. Actually psychological practice charity no longer need to achieve liberation.
(1) Theravadins: - he had such notions, he has to accept the "achievement of liberation" to mind being with love, coexist with love, harmony and charity, which corresponds to love, grow with loving kindness and followed; Again, such reasoning for a center called unwholesome have smuggled into the scene, combined with the blessed, development, demonstration store, contact afflictions. He rejected this.
(2) If a contact center has been freed, it must either: emotional and mental well being freed not? He agreed. Thus, he has to accept the same if the mind is freed affinity. He rejected this.
Similar reasoning applies to the property such as Life Center, Perception, ... Tue.
(3) Again, if interested can contact and affinity are liberated mind, there must be both emotional and mental liberation are not? He agreed. Thus he must also accept both love and attention have also been freed, but he refused it.
Similar reasoning applies to the other center property
(4-9) The same argument applies to "escape" contact "field" and "si" - the evil comes from these two types of consciousness.
(10) Andhakas: - He said that we accept the mistake of the mind with love, hatred and delusion newly freed. But his denial was far from loving heart, the mind away from the field, and shuns si mind can be liberated. That has strengthened our views.
4. PROCESS ISSUES Liberation (Vimuccamanakatha)
Diam debate: Mind liberation is still in the process of liberation
According to Note: This concept of many different sects by confusion between these hindrances liberation attained through meditation (which has not only destroyed completely suppress hindrances) and the complete liberation by the attainment saints director (in directing moment) with them, the mind is freed partly due to the favorable meditation and be liberated completely when enlightened
(1) Theravadins: - If his notions of sense, he should also accept the liberated mind the section and part of a Stream saint, also partially failed; In other words, he attained a Stream only a portion only.
(2-4) The same argument for the other three directors: First hybrid religion, any religion, and future Arhat religion.
(5) He also acknowledged that oil per a mind to be liberated in the moment of birth, and in the process of liberating moment he is like death.
(6) Delegation of the opposition : - He did not accept our opinion, but did not have Buddha has said, "People are seeing that, know how, the mind is freed taints such as illegal sex , organic contraband, and ignorance "? (1) is there no" the achievement of liberation "has freed the mind or what?
(7) Th: - But did the Buddha had also declared, "With the mind calm, pure, pure, loving and freedom from pollution, became demand puree, easy to use and handy, this ranks to achieve liberation in the cessation contraband or " (2) . Thus, there is no process of liberation here.
(8) He did not say that part of the mind is compassion, anger, ignorance and misery, how he can maintain his position was? Is He would not say that loving heart a rest, in part, no, in part, the skepticism, in part, no, partly also confused, in part, no part is the exception, in part, the no, partially freed, partly not?
5. ISSUES THE EIGHTH (The Path Project Save) (Atthamakakatha)
Rate debate : The eighth Ta is cut through and Doubt.
According to Note : This concept of sect Andhakas and Sammitiyas , said in disregard frustrating moments later, (3) 2 of 10 negativity (Ta prejudice and skepticism) was total annihilation by the eighth; means that the person has entered the Noble (Strictly speaking, must use "is" instead of "was").
(1) Threravadins: - Is He also prepared to admit that The eighth is a Stream, who have already accomplished, enlightened, went to Fruit Project and has comprehended the store, and in the success of this , exposure levels more than enough to save it?
(2-3) Moreover, Is He also prepared to admit that this level depending newspapers cut through the skepticism and wrong? And if so, does this rank except the players are precepts? In his opinion are covering all these things.
(4) However, if he rejects a Stream has cut through this (obvious precepts), he must also reject this level has been cut through and skeptics wrong.
(5) How is it that this level be rid skeptics wrong and without evangelism? And not only religion, but also with all the other factors of enlightenment?
(6) If he does not get rid of and skeptics wrong by religion or other factors certainly enlightened this level can not be the exception and doubters wrong by mundane law, corresponds to cankers. .. and negativity.
(7-8) AS: - Because he refused the eighth person except the skeptics wrong and we would like to ask him, what was still being run for this level again?
Th: - We will not arise again.
AS: - So, certainly our opinion a lot of sense; skeptics wrong and is destroyed.
(9-10) Th: - The hypothesis that these fetters will no longer arise again (ie become the symbol of the industry), he said that it was total annihilation. But is the free option of viewpoints, skepticism, and precepts to be rid of a player simply because they no longer arise reasonable? And he is not prepared to admit it.
(11) Moreover, he declared that the eighth paragraph of exorcism is and skepticism. So he has to accept the level attained meditation also cut through the fetters that. This He did not agree.
6. RIGHTS ISSUES OF THE EIGHTH (AtthamakassaIndriyakatha)
Rate debate : The Five eighth no rights.
According to Note : This concept of sect Andhakas believe in enlightened moments (the first church floor - enlightened process of incomplete eighth Five Rights (Tin, Tan, mindfulness, concentration and wisdom).
(1) Threravadins: - He must reject the eighth person does not have faith, if he refused Tier Credits of his rights. Similarly, for the remaining four rights: Attack power, right mindfulness, right samadhi, and Wisdom rights. But he could not deny that.
(2) However, he had to admit the eighth person of faith and other rights, but he did not recognize as such.
(3) However, he admitted in connection with other rights such as the Italian authorities, the wedding right ... right network (1) . Those who have the characteristic, it also has the right to (have the wedding, the wedding must have the right, with the network, they must have the right network).
(4) Why is this right for 5 with exceptions like?
(5-6) As he conceived of the above.
(7) He accepted the Credit Rights that faith is absent not absent itself (where the eighth). When no attack power, right mindfulness, right samadhi, Tue right then this level lazy, not interested, no reporter reached, not stupid, not dumb, not deaf.
(8) He must recognize Tin Tan, mindfulness, concentration and wisdom is the reincarnation manufacturing entity (1) of this level. However, he did not believe that this level has the rights over (5 rights are included in the production entity reincarnation).
(9-12) He accepts that the attainment of the First Mixed fruit, fruit and vegetables Real hybrid Arhat also full of features and contingent rights, but he refused it only with the eighth; Is this just a new person there exceptions?
(13) Finally, there must be prayer that Blessed One has declared, "This, brethren, have five rights. What is the year? Tin rights, ... Tue rights. These measures this is the brethren, are in the right. with the comprehensive, brethren with the fullness of this base, the Arhat level. Weakness is lighter are practical to realize results Arhat ( Arhat direction). Weakness is the One real hybrid lighter. Weakness is lighter are practical to realize Any future results (A-na-oriented content). Weakness is most hybrid lighter. Weak lighter that are practical to realize expected results saved (the store instruction). for one, brethren, of this right in full and did not have a comprehensive, time is said that he was standing on the outside, is belonging to the ordinary "? (2)
He can not say that the eighth person does not have these rights. He must recognize the existing contingent rights to the eighth.
7. ISSUES Benevolent (Dibbacakkhukatha)
Rate debate : Flesh label when legal support (Dhammupatthaddam), become God labels (Legal support charity).
According to Note : This view of the sect also Andhakas and Sammitiyas.
(1) Th: - If he had such notions, he has to accept the label Flesh Eye, and vice versa, as well as humiliation Label Eye, both of the same stuff, the same kind of prepared, have the same the nature and the realm of power and the same. But he refused this.
(2) Again, if He is a both, equally, equally, he must also accept manually (the consequences of karma)(1) also becomes non-obvious method, sexuality also became legal a similar approach and gender identity, gender identity and become law are immaterial world, continuously measures related to legal and estate related reincarnation. This is absurd.
(3) Moreover, with a view given him, he had to accept that the Eye with legal support from the sensuous (of meditation) became Flesh Label, and when there is the support of the Flesh Tue return label Tue-label success. Of course, this sect denies.
(4) Moreover, he must accept only two types of labels. If he refused, his opinion will not rational. If he agrees, is the Blessed One has declared the three types of labels - labels Flesh, Thien Tue label and the label "Monks, there are three types of labels - What are the three? - Label Flesh, God labels and Tue-label.
"With the label Flesh, God labels,
Tue noble label is found. In this third type of label,
the label is the show's Wisdom supreme rank
of Corporal label starting point,
with the means of God manual,
How intuition born start:
with the label throughout the Tue
Tue labels Those who come to something like this.
There will be freed from sorrow " . (2)
Tue noble label is found. In this third type of label,
the label is the show's Wisdom supreme rank
of Corporal label starting point,
with the means of God manual,
How intuition born start:
with the label throughout the Tue
Tue labels Those who come to something like this.
There will be freed from sorrow " . (2)
8. ISSUES retreat (Dibbasotakatha)
Rate debate : Flesh atrium when legal support, became God's ear.
According to Note : This view of the sexes also Andhakas and Sammitiyas .
(1-2) The reasoning is identical to point 7.
(3) Threravadins: - With His views put forward, he has to accept God's ear, when there is legal support sex education, then became Flesh atrium, moreover, he has to accept that there is only one type best atrial or binomial, if he refused, he could not maintain his position. If he agrees, I would like to ask him, do not ever Exalted has declared there are two kinds of Turkey is Turkish and Thien atrial Flesh.? (3)
9. INDUSTRY ISSUES NOTES AND HAPPY NOW LABELS BEINGS. (Yathakammupagatananakatha)
Rate debate : Thien Tue label means to see the fate depending on the career.
According to Note : This is the opinion of some sects, derived from the incorrect understanding the meaning of a passage "... With God's label super pure, I saw beings, the noble man inferior ... depending on their career of " (1) . They say Eye Ming (Tue know the birth and death of beings) there is the knowledge of knowing the difference minded beings.
(1) Theravadins: - His opinion also imply this: In action shows, attention is also regarded as a continuation of business. This he does not recognize. Or if he recognized, he was trying to say that there are 2 Promotion and coordination between the Centre. This he refused.
(2) I repeat once again, if he refused to accept the action seen with Thien label implied: "All beings, with the immoral behavior, language and thought evil unwholesome in past life as reviled the sages, Ta is, decided to do the wrong idea, when the body damage the public network, they will be reborn in a woeful state, and demanded the evil acts, we will be sad, anguish and sorrow. But there are other beings, with good behavior, good language, good thoughts, bringing havoc to the general body, they will be reborn in a heaven and there is a self-reported happiness itself ", or if he accepts the situation related to the Eye, can see the fate of all beings according to a cause of action (with the intention). He must accept that there is a combination of 2 and 2 Promotion Center.
(3) Again, if someone does not have God label, not a prime witness God label, no label comprehended God, he still knows the career of all sentient beings according to their professional conduct, and so views His unable to stand.
(4) The venerable Sariputta , as he has said, is someone like that (without God label) have once declared:
"I heard, not in vain,
Salvation is not illegal either.
No matter what his previous life.
No need Thien labeled"
Salvation is not illegal either.
No matter what his previous life.
No need Thien labeled"
10. TERMINATION ISSUES THE COLLECTION gods acetabulum. (Sanvarakatha)
Rate Debate: Have the end in the realms of gods collection
According to Note : This issue involves the conception of many sects, they said that in the realm of gods, starting Paths natural advantage, no longer committed to the precepts so they have the receiver end
(1) Threravadins: - For he accepted the check exists in the realm of gods, so he had to admit there was no self-control in his realm. He refused this, means no desire (on the receiver end) in the realm of gods. Thus, he also wanted to say that there is no need for self-control in his realm. Again, he refused this by his own opinion was given.
(2) Admittedly About the animal does not arise from the end, in other words, when there is no receiver end is transgression, even when self-control, receiver end is then presented with the main candidates.Is it the end of this collection exists on earth not gods? He disagreed, but by doing so, he also refers to the existence and non-existence of the collection is over. And this, he refused.
(3) He accepted the interesting and exciting finish exists in the realms end humanity. Why not accept this in the realm of gods?
(4) For example, he said, "In the realm of gods away and drink kill ...". But he still refused the immoral, (killing ... drink) is seen in the realm of gods.
(5) If he conceived gods on earth without these evil things, and he should not have the revenue recognition on earth was finished.
(6-7) Although he acknowledged the existence of both the receiver end and not collected in the realm of humanity is over.
(8) Gender opposition : - But if the collection does not end in the realms of gods, for to make sure that all gods are killing, stealing, ... but the gods you shall never commit these offenses .
11. ISSUES formless realms (Asannakatha)
Rate debate : There is in the realm of mindless thoughts. (1)
According to Note : This concept of sect Andhakas , derived in part from metal Buddha's discourse "Consciousness arises act" (2) . Therefore, they claim that there is no continuous born without heart;partly from other passages "When the electronic gods realms position that the mind arises" (3) . This sect concluded that in mind mindless realm gods during the time of birth and death process.
(1) Theravadins: - But surely he can not accept the same for his beings (formless realm gods) with organic Chiang, beneficiaries, Chiang's office falls, Chiang reincarnation, reported similar body? Do all these concepts are not right for this level?
(2) Is the property five aggregates, the five aggregates of five cylinders, ... Khandhas self-reported body at this level? Are Nhut organic aggregates, aggregates interesting direction ... Nhut Nhut aggregates themselves with the report itself does not have this level? Here, although we admit his opinion, he could not say that such a being conscious action, action by the consciousness that he has provided for him; He also did not claim this.
If, as in (1), he replaces "mindless beings" with "humanity," he might say CE humanity as follows: "There is a great property, beneficiaries, ... similar press relatives. And He can also describe him about humanity as follows: there are five aggregates of organic, whole contingent cylindrical aggregates, the five aggregates of reincarnation, born five aggregates, the five aggregates themselves stem ". Like when I say that he has accepted all of this for the mindless beings with the view of him, and he again refused.
Similar to section (3), if we replace "human" with "a being so."
(4) Let's give that opinion his views are rational, of course accept centered on the human plane. Why continue to confirm the gods you have organic mindless, mindless fun oriented, self office mindless, mindless birth, reincarnation mindless, mindless self-reported themselves, they deny it to mankind?And why does he continue to certify organic Nhut aggregates, aggregates Nhut interesting direction, ... for even the gods and reject these things for humanity? After all why would he deny even the mindless realm gods conscious action by the mind it, but accepted it in the realm of human beings.
(5-6) Andhakas: - If the mistake of saying, "There is great wealth in the realm of ideas", I ask him to recall all of which have to be Buddha has declared "Monks, there even the gods called mindless beings, gods for this position, the center is being run at that time, this position mortality " (1) . And our opinion is so, it means that sometimes the gods which your consciousness.
(7) Th: - If you say so, then the gods are sometimes as great beings, sometimes with useful ideas, sometimes five aggregates useful, and sometimes mindless beings, sometimes is priceless organic idea, sometimes organic aggregates Nhut. This is absurd.
Again, at this point being centered and time do not?
A - The right to death and rebirth (termites mind), but there is no date when average.
Th - but such absurd transformation to happen.
12. ISSUES CONCEPT considered PHI PHI PHI CONCEPT(Nevasannanasannayatanakatha)
Rate debate : No idea at non-ideal non ideal realm.
According to Note : The concept of sect Andhakas , here, by rational arguments, this concept is rectified by sect Theravadins.
(1) Theravadins: - But does he not think that in this world there are countless useful idea, numerous beneficiaries, mindless self office, reincarnation mindless, mindless mindless self-reported birth and body?
(2) Does he not think that in this world there are beings most useful ... Nhut aggregates aggregates self-reported body? And does he not believe that this realm ... Organic Quartet self aggregates aggregates self-reported body?
(3) If we refuse to have the heart, have thought, for mindless beings and realms that this realm ... mindless mindless self-reported property itself; how he can refuse to have the heart, have the idea in the realm of non-ideal non expression of the idea by the same word? Or, how can we say that in this realm only Nhut aggregates with nouns such expressions?
(4) If the reasonable opinion of him, and though he said that this realm is the realm of great friendship, the same, the idea of rejection with mindless realm. He must have thought that the organic realm ... that self-reported body ideal. This is absurd.
The same applies to organic aggregates quarterfinals.
(5) If he rejects the idea of this territory has, however, still call this realm is the realm of aggregates quarterfinals, then his position is clearly not reasonable.
(6) He admitted in the realm of non-ideal non organic idea with aggregates quarterfinals, while he again said that there is no idea in this realm. Is He admitted in the realm of ideas (below) called "not infinite origin"? And there in the realm of ideas (higher) "boundless origin" and "no parish property."So, why not in the realm of ideas (the highest) "Non ideal non-perception"?
(7) How can he accept the idea of only three worlds that are not acceptable for Wednesday realm (non-ideal non ideal), while he is still recognized each quarter-aggregates realms.?
(8-10) Does he object to this in the realm of non-ideal non idea? You agree? But why, while he accepted the existence of the Four aggregates? Again, why in the quarterfinals when he accepted aggregates in the case of the other three worlds that also accepted for non-ideal non vo9i ideal realm?
(11) He admits in this realm is not a problem with perception, yet He remains misconception to say that in the realm of ideas which is also not without ideas nor.
(12) Get a feel neutral - There is no mistake to say that the feeling is neutral feeling no sensations? He agreed that "We can not say the same." Thus, other things can be said to look like?END=NAM MO CAKYA MOUNI BUDDHA.( 3 TIMES ).VIETNAMESE TRANSLATE ENGLISH BY=THICH CHAN TANH.THE MIND OF ENLIGHTENMENT.WORLD VIETNAMESE BUDDHIST ORDER=VIETNAMESE BUDDHIST NUN=GOLDEN LOTUS MONASTERY=AUSTRALIA,SYDNEY.28/10/2016.MHDT.
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