CHAPTER II

1. POSITION OF THE POLLUTION Arhat (Parupaharakatha)

Rate debate : A Career Arhat still ejaculate.

According to Note : This issue arises concerning the concept of sect  Pubbaseliyas  and  Aparaseliyas , for that the Arhat still ejaculate, although this position was attained or not attained. They also wrong to that God can enter your ma Arhat, make this your ejaculation and ejaculation is also the result of eating. This problem led to a different concept ejaculation is also caused by craving.  (Translator: The reason for this perception because the Lord Buddha in the world, with the pagan religious practice under the unfortunate ox , cranes ... oil is ordinary but still claiming to be Arhat).

(1)  Theravadins:  - He held that rank Arhat still ejaculation, although he denies this level of pollution such as Desire or craving (Ai infection) or Germany Trade, Education upsurge, Academic Coordinator, education females. And this would deny contradiction in his conception was proposed.

(2) He accepts ordinary has both lust and physiological results (of desire that), then he has to accept the level Arhat must also have it both ordinary like that.

(3) So what caused him back to that level Arhat still ejaculation?

Pubbaseliyas  and  Aparaseliyas:  - Tian ma contaminate the Arhat level.

Th: - So God himself ghost has not ejaculate?

PA: - No, God ma no ejaculation.

Th: - If so, he is not saying that God ma polluting Arhat level.

(4) The pollution level of Arhat does from the main places he or not? He did not agree, the main body of pollution from God and not from ghosts where the Arhat or other beings. This is absurd.

(5) He also refused Tian ma polluting Arhat level through pores and He also rejected all the ways that God makes ma level Arhat ejaculation. Thus, the reason that he said that Tian ma polluting Arhat level?

PA: - With the ghost of God: "We will create for your skeptic's Arhat, who became fully enlightened." (1)

Th - Career So Arhat have doubts stars? If he denies his point of view, the failure; if he accepts, he must accept a level Arhat remain skeptical about the Buddha, Dharma, Sangha, Learnings, the birth, the killing, the arising and passing away, the idea was born, That really is absurdity.

(6) Qualities still skeptical of it, but an Arhat level is not (if the level Arhat level is still skeptical that ordinary like that). Or, if the suspicion of both unrelated to this 8 that skepticism to other issues, the level of skepticism Arhat is nothing more than ordinary.

(7) If you have to admit his policy is reasonable, So what reasons cause pollution? He answered that by eating, chewing, tasting; But he still denies that not everyone everyone is eating, chewing, tasting, and they can ejaculate. And if he maintains the opposite notion, he had to admit that there is no ejaculation where the little children, the man being castrated, or even the gods even though they were eating, chewing, tasting . His advocates unreasonable in this case.

(8) He may not invoke any mystery about the pollution, but he said it was the result of eating, drinking, chewing, tasting. Likewise, defecation and urination is also a natural consequence of eating.

(9) If his opinion was that rational, then rank Arhat continued close relationship with the opposite sex, family life, using Ka-si fabrics puree (by type tree guide) Corolla jewelry and hair lotions, hoarding gold like any ordinary public.

(10) But how can such an idea is reasonable for an Arhat level - as he admitted - Tier has fully rid of craving, craving eradicate such crops Tala off tops, not likely to arise in the future, steps that anger, ignorance, conceit, wrong, skeptical, drowsiness, restlessness, heartless, fearless, ... was total annihilation.

(11-12) Furthermore, how does such an idea is reasonable for the level Arhat, a person versed in the cessation craving ... and the enlightenment factor.

(13) How can such an idea is reasonable for Arhat level, who shuns the desire, anger, delusion, done things to do, put the burden down, winner, the ultimate, completely severing all ties in existence, liberating knowledge, has filled culverts, piles up and spit, no key level, attained enlightenment securities, lowering the flag conceit, done duties, terminate all ties, have comprehended the Noble Truth, absolute except to ultimate, enlightenment Killing mature base and cultivate the Noble Truth hath found out the considerable legal comprehended, great except for the absolute except legal appearance, enlightenment realization of significant legal, legal hone hone worthy, worthy of legal awareness of awareness.

(14-20) Is He maintained the view of Him?

PA: - Yes, but only in the case of an Arhat level IP solutions (Arhat fluent in their approach) are the ejaculate, while in the case of grade A-La- drought measures bisexual liberation (Arhat fluent in their approach and the other person)  (1)   there is no ejaculation.

Th: - But how he can remain in this case that he is not admitted in other cases. While the patterns of virtues and the requisite level of Arhat is no difference, both have cut through craving, anger ...

(21) How can he maintain this perspective when he admitted that the Buddha had said in a prayer: "Monks, the monks do though was ordinary, but full virtue, mindfulness, and provincial feeling the semen does not output even during sleep. until the travelers pagan officer, was separated from craving attention nor the ejaculation? So, for that Arhat still ejaculation is something illusory and unnatural "? (2)

(22) PA: - What does our viewpoint is not absurd?

Th: - Yes, indeed so.

PA: - But if he admits that there are others willing to bring to the Arhat level care, bowl, couch or medication treatment, then surely our opinion is rational.

(23) Th: - But is everything, apart from the four requisites, other people can donate money to the Arhat level? Could someone else offered to this level as Project Save the holy fruit, fruit Reload, Real hybrid or results Arhat work? No? Therefore, his opinion is not acceptable.

2. ISSUES OF CLASS knowledge Arhat (Annanakatha)

Rate debate : Tier Arhat still imperfection of knowledge.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Pubbaseliyas  that level Arhat may not know and did not fully articulate a comprehensive manner the issues related to daily life, may be intellectually inferior to others Property. So Arhat level can be seen as still imperfection of knowledge or wisdom. This view was seconded rectify by  Theravadins .

(1)  Theravadins:  - He said that steps Arhat still imperfection of knowledge, he also had to admit that the Arhat level is still ignorance: ignorance outbreak, ignorance coordination , depending newspapers ignorance, ignorance hindrances, ignorance fetters. Without such recognition, then he can not say that level Arhat still imperfection of knowledge is.

(2) Surely he recognizes that there is mortal imperfection of knowledge, meaning the outbreak is still ignorance, ignorance co ...

(3) How did he accept the level of knowledge of the Arhat remains imperfect whilst not accept he remains ignorant.

(4) Furthermore, make sure that he must renounce that level Arhat remains imperfection of knowledge and by his imperfect knowledge, you will be killing, stealing, promising language, bisexual damage , say, frivolous, harsh, robbery or an entire neighborhood, blocked deserted streets to welcome place, search another man's wife, killed peasants and urban residents, and he must accept that mortal remains have knowledge imperfect and do those things.

(5) In fact, he still agreed that the Arhat level though still imperfection of knowledge, but there is no action on the matter as ordinary people, who because due to imperfect knowledge should have such actions.

(6) He also denies that the Arhat level is still knowledge, imperfection of Buddha, Dharma and Sangha, the birth, the killing, the arising and passing away, the idea was born. He agreed to this, Job 8 Arhat no imperfection of knowledge. However, he maintains his concept was launched.

(7) He accepts that an ordinary person can still imperfect knowledge about 8 this, but one level Arhat is not, though this level imperfection but not imperfect about 8 that, affordable he was forced to accept an ordinary person, despite the imperfection of knowledge, but not the imperfection of 8 this?

(8-10) Is it possible that he maintains that level Arhat, who has cut through craving, hatred, ignorance, conceit, wrong, skeptical, drowsiness, restlessness, heartless, fearless, who pluck them like tree roots Tala off the tops, not likely arise in the future, who mastered the same legal dispassion enlightenment factors leading to freedom, achievements in the cessation greed, hatred, delusion ... and the necessary virtues of an Arhat level. Are such people but still imperfect knowledge about?

(11-16) Or, how He can still the perception that only rank Arhat Tue liberation are imperfect knowledge, and level Arhat betweenness release is not?

(17) Is Exalted has not once declared "Monks, I proclaim that the only advantage for the contraband was found, who knows, not for people who do not see, who do not know. And monks, who see and know what is new there is illegal to take? this is Sac, this is the birth of excellence, which is the cessation of identity. this is from aggregates, this is the birth of the four mental aggregates this is the cessation of aggregates quarterfinals. bhikshus see how people who know how new the illegal advantage "?  (1)

Thus, how a level Arhat (who saw that, I've known that) is still imperfection of knowledge?

(18) Again, there must be Exalted has declared: "Monks, I proclaim that the only advantage for the contraband was found, who knows, not for people who do not know, who do not see. and monks, who see and know what is new there is illegal to take? this is hard, this is a human being suffering, this is the cessation of suffering, this is the path to the cessation of suffering. bhikshus , who found that, who knows how the contraband new take "?  (2)

Thus, how a level Arhat (who saw that, I've known that) is still imperfection of knowledge?

(19) Again, there must be Exalted has declared "Monks, who do not understand, is not the truth of Dharma, not boring, not dispassion, he is not likely to eradicate suffering . And monks, who understand the legal penetrating, boring, dispassion, he is capable of cessation of suffering "?  (3)

So how does a level Arhat (who understands, has penetrated ... re still imperfection of knowledge?)

(20) Again, there must be Exalted has not once declared, "When enlightened Provision saved, and this position is 3 fetters rid: Body is, Doubt, About banned players. This is no longer reborn in an unhappy and never evil act anymore 6 (five precepts and wrong) "?  (4)

So, how can say one level Arhat still imperfection of knowledge?

(21) Again, there must be Exalted has declared "Bhikshus with A disciple saint which measures social isolation label arisen and ceiling structure. He is called the Holy Sangha, who comprehended the practice engenders are being destroyed, while the juridical, legal birth, you also get rid of three fetters: Body is, Sceptic, and Precept player "?  (1)

So, how can say one level Arhat still imperfection of knowledge?

(22) P: - There is no mistake to say that "Tier Arhat still imperfection of knowledge? Can you rank Arhat knows their names of the woman and the man, know the right or wrong way, know the names of trees and forests dust "? Therefore, sir, certainly a lot of sense to assume that the level Arhat still imperfect knowledge about.

(23) Th: - If concepts like him, do not know what this is imperfection of knowledge level Arhat affordable then he also said that Job Arhat knows nothing about Project save results, First hybrid fruit, fruit Real hybrid and Arhat fruit. Of course not. And so, he could not say Career Arhat still imperfection of knowledge.

3. ISSUES skepticism CLASS Arhat (Kankhakatha)

Rate debate : Tier Arhat remain skeptical.

According to Note : This point is like Thesis 2 (each question a), but rather the "Sceptic"  (Kantha)  for "imperfection of knowledge" and "skeptical" ( vicikiccha)  for "ignorance" with the following exceptions:

(1) These measures "Trien", "Boc", "potential lobes" can not be used in case of doubt. - See (1) and (2) of the second argument.

(2) These segments (4, 5) will be discussed at this point, if you Arhat with imperfection of knowledge, he is like any ordinary public, that is still scope precepts, and still have to keep the school world.

(3) Paragraph (20) was added to the following verses to cite.

(20) Again, there must be Exalted has declared that:

"When media is diligently Career scope of practice.
Because of the clear lens of the existing practice for a reason.
It was then terminated by disbelief,
Career When violations are even diligent practice.
Due comprehended the practice of annihilation because of all grace.
it was then terminated by disbelief.
When the brain is believed tonnes Releases Career scope of practice.
because of the clear lens of the existing practice.
it was then, this taste victory ma King and captured the Portuguese delegation.
when the light comes, darkness back, nowhere brilliant sun.
it seems like that, when there is knowledge comprehended.
it is then that skepticism is total annihilation.
Select a product noble virtues.
tier diligent media practice range.
Termination is skepticism about the current life or past of yourself or others.
Among the skeptics, not even rank skeptical committed.
he is the ultimate winner, no obstacle to rid the mind "  (1)

4. ISSUES OF SUBLIME Arhat (Parivitaranakatha )

Rate debate : Tier Arhat is sublime by others.

According to Note : This point is like this argument in chapter 2, rather sublime by others for the imperfection of knowledge and have the following exceptions:

a) (1) Th: - He said that steps Arhat is sublime by someone else, he has to accept that level Arhat is someone else to lead, direct results attained by persons another, is facilitated (to a level Arhat) also ask someone else, life depends on others and who do not know, do not fully articulate, and confusion and lack of wisdom. If rejected these things, he can not say Career Arhat is supernatural is due rely on others.

b) Paragraph 4 and 5 are discarded.

c) Together with 5 passages are cited from (17-21) 6th passages were added.

(20) Again, there must be Exalted has not once declared. "Hey Dhotaka, no one in this world by skeptics will lead to liberation As hybrid. It is in the realization of a noble dharma Omniscient, with supreme wisdom, as future beyond Boc save".  (2)

5. PRONUNCIATION PROBLEMS WHILE IMPORT MEDITATION (Vacibhedakatha)

Rate debate : Is there a way to pronounce in entering the meditation.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Pubbaseliyas  and some other sects, said that a person entering the first meditation, "Path Project Save", exclaims the word "suffering" and they misunderstood the meaning of "Vision" and "Quartet" exists in meditation (Vision and related Thinh Quartet). This notion denied by sect  Theravadins .

(1)  Theravadins: -  he raised this issue in general terms.

So that concept must be applied anywhere, at any time, for all people and for all admissions for in each meditation. But he does not admit all such cases. Therefore he does not assert anything on this issue.

(2) Are you enter meditation, meditators have shaken yourself? He denied that the practitioner has shaken the body, but why deny if his notion that rational? If one does not shake itself, He should not assume that he stirs export is (itself pure, and pure export).

(3) If in entering the meditation, with the export of the sound body of the practitioner must be shaken well.

(4) He said that knowing "Suffering" cried the word "suffering" but denies knowing "Tap" exclaimed the words "Tap". But why so? Moreover, why refuse that knowing "Kill" or "Path," then he exclaimed.

(5) Why deny three languages ​​(File, Killing, Paths) without first denying the "suffering"?

(6) He said that the object of knowledge is the (Holy) God. But he again refused the subject of Turkey is the sole, which according to him is Silence, but he again refused subject of Wisdom is Silence.

(7) He said that God is the object of knowledge, is the subject of Turkey Thinh. But if knowledge has God as its object and Turkey have made the object Thinh then said to him, He can not be accepted at the entry to the sound in meditation (meditation Since entering the highway at the Property).

(7a) If He said that while knowledge concerning God and concerning Turkey that meditators Thinh new pronounceable, he must also accept that there is a combination of two excavators, two feelings, two thoughts, two investment, 2 center (in that same moment). This is absurd.

(8) He said that his concept is rational, but he again refused to apply this to any one of the eight floors disasters (1)   has nine floors meditation with headings earth, water, fire, wind , blue, yellow, red, white, or one of the four formless meditation (2)  . So how that his position is clear and transparent?

(9) If he rejects one of these possibilities, he can not accept his opinion was given.

(10) Furthermore, he denies that the only people who enter meditation Association can pronounce whether this level has acquired a four-story meditation does. So he can not accept his opinion was given.

(11) If he denies the first argument must also deny the following arguments.

(12) He said that only superpower rank enter meditation can pronounce, while second meditation, meditation and philanthropic triangle (Superman's) can not pronounce it. But if he just admitted the first ever meditation, then for whatever reason he does not accept the following three levels of meditation?

(13-14) P: - There is no mistake to assume that the pronunciation part while entering meditation?

Th: - Well, so is wrong.

P: - But is Exalted has not once declared that "the export range and operating Quartet" (1)   or what?And third, and fourth is not still present in meditation story there? Then make sure our views are rational.

(15) Th: - Admittedly he invoked a lot of sense and grade can enter meditation to contact Games and Four, but the question is that he has refused entry level meditation of any one of the eight jhaanas is likely to pronounce it. And so, how he re-confirmed his opinion is rational being.

(16) P: - But did the Buddha did not claim that every word has a range of facilities being made or what? Thus there have not Range of meditation?

(17) Th: - It is not a good reason too. Buddha has also been declared as ideological speech delivery basis (2)   that steps Type, Two, Three, Four Ideas meditation there, but no longer range and more Quartet. With 4 formless meditation similar reasoning.

(18) Moreover, there must be no passages "As an entry level practice meditation, the anti-export"?  (3)

(19) If he maintains his position, he had failed here, because in the text is the following paragraph: "When an order is entered Metta meditation Two killed, while a third tier meditation enter the joy Removal, when an order is entered jhana breath away, when a parish level boundless enter the great Sac kill, when an order entry form boundless infinitude of origin, the idea is not destroyed, when an entry level property Unknown origin the boundless land of death. when an entry level non-ideal non-perception, the very origin of property destroyed, when an order is entered killing life expectancy Dinh Tuong and Chiang kill ".  (4)

(20) P .: - But if our opinion is wrong, why the Blessed One declared: "Silence is the object of the Private non endearing Zen"? (5)   Does this imply that when an order can pronounce is reasonable?

(21) Th - He admitted both passages on each of his views given.

(22) P .: - But did the Buddha was once declared "Hey Ananda, Abhikhu, disciple of Buddha Sikhin, Arhat Career Enlightenment, now in heaven Brahma, proclaimed the ten thousand worlds such samsara.

"Get up on the road.
Be engaged Buddhism.
Let ma military defeat
as taps out leaf hut.
Who in this law.
Dwelling no distractions.
And even to the living dead.
It will end suffering."  ( first)

So meditation can certainly enter the ranks pronounced during samadhi.

6. PROPERTY ISSUES IN ENGLISH SUCCESS "LINE"(Dukkhanarakatha)

Rate Debate:  The word "suffering" is a factor related to the Tao and Tao.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Pubbaseliyas , said when asked to speak "Suffering" is successful liberating insight ( Nanam ) and so there is also a known factor and part of the Path. They acknowledge this as a truth only for those who are capable of attaining the knowledge of liberation.

Theravadins  - If such a concept, he also had to admit that all those who cried the word "suffering" are evidence Path, which is absurd.

Or if he admits this concept, he also acknowledged that the guys always ordinary uncultured voice exclaimed, "Suffering" is enlightened. Again killer mother, killed his father, killed Arhat, Buddha who inject blood, increasing vandalism case, when asked to speak "Suffering" enlightened, well, this is even more ridiculous.

7. HEAD OF ISSUES YOUTH CENTER (Cittatthitikatha)

Rate debate : A single center home office all day.

In Note : Gender  Theravadins  set out to rectify this problem sect belief  Andhakas , this sect distinguish continuous existence of the subconscious mind in meditation and, as a mere state of mind that lasts for a lifetimes. They also believe in the Formless realms, heart of the gods can last throughout life, whereas according to the Orthodox, the mind exists only in a very short time period, it is difficult to identify (the moment of time = 1/1027 second) this Mission has proven their concept from the business' Path of Purity ", there exists a state of mind that lasts all day for a Zen practitioner (they do not discriminate Tam Tam and what is secondary).

(1)  Theravadins:  - If His notion was that rational, it must remain in the moment of birth half-day strike, and kill family moment in the office half days? He did not accept, even in his conception implies this. A similar recognition was also covered with a family office center two days, 4 days, 8, 10 or 20 days; or 1 month, 2, 4, 8 or 10 months, or one year, for many years, many thousands of years, many eons.

(2) There must be outside the mind, there are other measures arising and passing several times in a day? He agreed to star? He does this mean that there are other measures, such as interest arising and passing quickly? If he denies, his conception fail. If he recognized, there must be Exalted has declared: "Monks, the Thus Come One does not see a legal interest arising and passing more quickly, it's hard to describe the birth and death of the heart how fast "?  (1)

(3) Again, "Like a monkey jumping continuously passed out from this tree branch to another branch. Bhikshus, also seems Likewise, what is called thought, mind or consciousness, followed day and night and also continuously flowing so ".  (2)

(4) There must be awareness or any other form of home office all day? Or an immoral as greed, anger, ignorance, conceit, wrong, doubt, dullness, heartless, fearless, heedless? If not, he could not say that the center is home office all day.

(5) There must be a hearing, smell, taste, touch and know well by not mind consciousness? Or thaay, heard, touched also by the mind ... consciousness? He can not accept that there is a home office all day mind is.

(6) Likewise, if he denies that a person walking in the mind regress does well with this mind, look to the mind does also looked back with this mind, he could not accept the His point was made. Similar arguments apply to the sit, lie, turn left, turn right, ... also by a single mind that.

(7) In the case of gods in the land of boundless realms, is only a single mind always in a home office is not life? He accepted this, but he does not accept the same for all mankind and the gods in heaven Fitness World (like Four Deva Kings ... Tha Self-in) as well as all gods in the realm heaven and gender identity (as the great Brahma, Pham Thien Sac Accessories Rescue Wing) Why do not deny for gods in the land of boundless realms?

(8) I think he accepted a home office center in 20 aeons in heaven Formless, But He rejects such cases to the realm of humanity that lives only 100 years, or for planes the gods in the heavenly realms and Lust that life from 500 years in the Four deva kings realms for eons to 16,000 in the great Brahma realms.  (3)

(9) A: - So there must be at the heart of the gods is not boundless realms origin arising and passing away in the same moment not interested?

Th: - Well, true.

A: - But does the gods in this realm of death and rebirth in the same moment it?

Th: - No, do not talk like that.

A: - Is the meaning of birth and death with the arising and passing of each moment of mind?

Th: - On the other hand, if He gives rangtrong devas case only a single mind lasted throughout their lifetimes, he must also believe that the gods which your mail is in the mind they have continuous delivery. But he does not accept this.

8. ISSUES OF WORLD anguish (Kukkulakatha)

Rate Debate:  All practice is always hot as a fire pit.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Golulikas , by misunderstanding the meaning of the verse: "Monks, all is fire"  (1)  , "All conditioned things are suffering"  (2 ) , for that all have the practice as the flames burned hot, there is no shortcut, like hell. Phai  Theravadins  has rectified this notion by presenting different forms of happiness.

Theravadins:  - He conceived as such, but there is no legal right such pleasant, optimistic body, mind and happiness of heaven, the realm of human happiness, the happiness of the benefit and happiness of the offerings, happiness lies in the way, way to go, how to rest, the happiness of the command, a layman's happiness, the happiness of the holy life, happiness related to illegal possession, happy related to outflow (by Nirvana happiness), the happiness of prime property, wealth and happiness of the players, the happiness of the material and spiritual happiness, joy and friendship happiness everlasting happiness joy, happiness of meditation , the happiness of renunciation, happiness of liberation, from where craving happiness, happiness from where the awakening, quiet happiness, the happiness of the purity and happiness of realization? of course, the happiness that is real, so how can he maintain his concept outlined in general terms are.

(2)  Gokulikas:  - If so, they must have our perceptions are wrong? But is Exalted has declared that "Monks, all of which are fire: why are all fire? Eye is fire, fire is the color, consciousness is fire, fire label is exposed, although there are pleasant, unpleasant, non-life suffering non-touch, all also are fire, hot fire with something? I declare that involved fire-hot, hot from the fires, fire-si hot, hot by itself ethnic, hot due to the birth, due to the aging heating, hot from the dead, heated by fire grief, crying fire, fire superiority, fire anyone. all the other official (ear, nose, tongue, body, Italy), all other emotions, (Turkey emotional, ... the contact will be called fire "  (1) ? so, not sure that all of the practice is always subject to the absolute temper or what?

(3) Th: - But is Exalted has declared "Monks, there are five types of pleasure. What is the year? All the object of Brand Excellence is endearing knowledge, ability joy, possibility optimistic, full of charm. All Thinh ... Huong ... the ... Promotion ... the object of consciousness is lovable, capable happy, pleasurable, full of charm, ... "?  ( 2)

(4) G: - But is Exalted has declared "Monks, any benefit to the people a good reputation with the people in your life to be celibate. Monks were seen hell, ie enter contact record, that everyone can see what color is just impossible love, joy impossible, impossible optimism; philistine Thinh ... Huong ... the French ... promotion ... what is perceived are impossible love, joy impossible, impossible touch "?(3)

(5) Th: - But is Exalted has declared "Monks, the benefit to the person, a good reputation with the people in your life to be celibate, Bhikshus, we see which is heaven, ie enter contact record, what is seen is outstanding Qualities lovable, capable happy, pleasurable: Qualities Thinh ... Huong ... the ... promotion ... what the French are perceived lovable, capable happy, pleasurable "?  (4)

(6) G: - But did the Buddha was once declared "The compounded is impermanent, and very often synonymous with suffering"?  (5)

(7) Th: - But Bell has brought results impossible love, joy impossible, impossible optimism, and fake it? and that results can not bring sorrow? Or keep the five precepts, the Eight Precepts, pure world and life can bring discounts unfortunate outcome impossible love, joy impossible, impossible not touch?The karma that has brought the opposite effect results not allergic maturity? So, how did he again accept his point of view in general is.

(8) Finally, there must be Exalted has declared:

"Far cup is peaceful
contentment with who knows.
For legal persons with hearing
persons with the right view
is not pitch peace
But who in the world
For sentient beings
homemade Know, prevent.
Separated participation is bliss
Beyond Meeting the life
Ai convince conceit
This supreme bliss. " ?  (6)

9. CERTIFICATION PROCESS ISSUES MYTH(Anupubbabhisamayakatha)

Rate Debate:  The attained by the class (partial)

In Note : Due to a misunderstanding following passage: "Each level, each time a little bit, in due course, the intellectual who must eliminate its defilements as the silversmiths filter impurities in the gold."  (1 )   So the sectarian  Andhakas, Sabbathivadins, Sammitiyas  and  Bradrayanikas  with this concept, they believe in the realization of Four Paths, these afflictions were gradually purged as well as the gradual realization of a sole individual.

(1)  Theravadins: -  If he had second class concept in the attainment, he must accept a Stream evangelism class and order. If he refused, his opinion is not justified. If he agrees, then he must accept the additional endorsement of the results by the class level also. But he can not be so acceptable (for consecutive Paths and Fruits Stock moment).

(2-4) Similarly, with the hybrid experience the results First, Real hybrid, Arhat.

(5) (Tell me what classes are required for the attainment). When a certificate of practice to be able to attain a Stream, comprehended Suffering, he cut through the fetters yet?

ASSB: - Tier his body is cut through, Doubt and About banning same quarter defense related afflictions.

Th: - With this quarter, he said that there must be a quarter of a Stream, then, was one quarter, then failed? ¼ Does the level of victory, attained level expected results saved? Is it only a quarter are in contact with her results, a quarter do not? Is it just a quarter of a Stream hybrid loss, while a quarter are unsuccessful? ¼ Does the continent into a Stream hybrid, hybrid ... The most up? ¼ Are there estate trust for the Buddha, Dharma and Sangha? There must be half a quarter of the world according to the Bible, and a quarter do not? He does not accept this, but there are problems in his opinion.

(6) Again, the results realized beings Two, Three and Four results clearly through to ultimate result, and the Noble Truth of the Cessation soles this position yet rid fetters?

The similar problems, according to how he conceived?

(7-9) Or when an order is to be attained practice Nhat hybrid, no future, Arhat, he will get rid of the fetters yet?

ASSB: - First hybrid Tier rid of Ai, with a quarter of crude Golf related afflictions: Real hybrid Tier rid International Airport and ¼ Ai and afflictions contact: Tier Arhat rid of the remaining fetters (Love Sac, Ai formless, conceit, rooms booked, ignorance) with ¼ related afflictions.

Th: - Similarly, he must say that a quarter of the level of Arhat, the quarter also failed. v ... v ...

(10) When an order is practiced to attain expected results stored, are comprehended the sole suffering, He has called this level the "Practical Steps" (The Way The store) does not?

ASSB: - Well, true.

Th: - When this level has comprehended the sole suffering, He has called this level "Tier families remain in effect" (The results expected up) does not? He did not agree, but why not? Similarly, with the other 3 soles - He did not agree, but why not?

(11) Again, he admits is a certified Level Path Project is saved, can call this level is "Practical Steps" (The note directed project) and when this level we expected flow direction is called "Tier Home remain in effect "(the results expected to save). Why he has not acknowledged any level Suffering is comprehended, that grade is called "the religion", even when fully articulate Suffering, steps that are called "the fruit"? Again he acknowledged that a step is expected to save the witness known as "The direction a Stream", but when it has comprehended Suffering is called "The Project saved results".

And he has not acknowledged that an order is fully articulate to ultimate or Cessation soles, steps he called "the religion", and when he hath found out the insole called "The result" - Why to acknowledge as dress?

(12) Again, he recognized that when people are suffering, the realization he called "the religion", while again rejecting Him who has comprehended the Noble Truth is called "The result "(As in section 10).Therefore, he must also recognize and reject if we substitute any public soles (Volume - Extinction - Path), but with this, he does not agree (as in 11).

(13) As His views made (in section 12), he forced himself to admit that you have comprehended the Volume and Empire Kill not called "The result".

(14) ASSB: - What does he think when comprehended Suffering is also comprehended the words to it?

Th: - Yes so.

ASSB: - So he has to admit that on include Suffering from easy.

Th: - (Oh, no! Oil to him or to me) if the aggregate  (Khandha)  , the five aggregates are impermanent and ephemeral. Therefore, he should not have said that aggregate also includes the 5 aggregates.

(15) The same argument applies to the 12 parish, 18, and 22 rights.

(16) If he believes that one level is attained Provision partially saved by knowledge (such as 4 Tue, 8 Tue, 12 Tue 44 Tue 77 Tue), Then he has to accept the results The relative flow quantity Tue such parties. Of course, he could not accept it.

(17) ASSB: - He said that our views on the attainment of the order is wrong. But is Exalted has declared: "Monks, even coast of jasmine also slowly, slowly lean down, there are holes holes slowly, without the steep coast. it seems that he, in the law and this, the practice is slowly, the success is also slowly, the realization is slowly, without the knowledge of the law is spontaneously "?  (1) (Translator: concept "Salon tu" can not "compensation").

(18) Again, the Buddha also has declared, "Every level, every time a bit, in due course, the intellectual level to eradicate their defilements, such as filtering impurities workers in gold and silver." ( first)

(19) Th - Yes, there is indeed such texts. But is venerable  Gavampati  had to remind of dignity that:

"I have heard from Bhagavan itself, Mr. Chu Hien, the territory itself as follows:

- Hey monks, who sees suffering, he also saw collective suffering, also suffer a killing, also found the way to kill pain. Who saw suffering episode, he also saw people suffering, I feel the way to kill pain. Who saw him kill also seen suffering pain, also found the way to kill pain.Who saw him kill also seen suffering pain, suffering and collective shows, also seen suffering a path to extinction. Who found the way to destroy suffering, he saw suffering, also seen suffering collective, also suffer a killing "  (2)

(20) Again, there must be Exalted has declared:

"He thanks the full,
with the right view wise.
Therefore, there are three legal
To be completely abandoned:
Body prejudice and suspicion,
nor the first precept.

For four of deprivation
Fully liberated
He can not do
six basic evil.

Thus, where monks
treasure As e.
Looking forward to this fact
true happiness to be alive " ?  (3)

Again, there must be Exalted has declared: "the legal Bhikshus detachment label ceiling structure arose a disciple to the right, you see the measures it engenders are all disappearing. At birth with this manual approach, he cut through the three fetters: Body is, cynical, and obvious precepts. "?

10. LANGUAGE ISSUES OF BUDDHA (Veharakatha)

Rate debate : The language of the Buddha daily use is legal does.

According to Note : This concept of sect  Andhakas , said that the language used daily Buddha is legal does. Because they misinterpreted a passage about "Right Speech" and the expenditure part right speech is only one factor in the Noble Eightfold Path (Central Business, 117). Rather, the only contact center church floors with Nirvana, is legal does.

(1)  Theravadins:  - Is this concept not imply a further problem is the language of the Buddha is only the object of consciousness superpower without the subject of Turkey's official union, and with Tri super How A disciple of saints understand Scripture's language Exalted, and ordinary people can not understand? He did not accept so ... He still knows that the preaching of the Buddha's impact on ordinary consciousness and intellectual repartee with which ordinary mortal understand his teachings.

(2) The fact that statutory language used does Buddha belongs only superpower like Path, Fruit, Nirvana, a Stream Path and Fruit, First hybrid, Real hybrid, and Arhat, Niem origin, Chief necessary, as the residence, Right, Force Sense spent?

(3) Do people still listen to the language of the Buddha-to-date average is not? But he still refused to approach the subject of trade that Turkey, in contact with Turkey go into the path of Turkey. Therefore, he can not accept that people hear the language of Buddha is.

(4) Is the language of the Buddha-to-date average to make people happy is not? (He still knows that the truth is so  (1)   but there superpower must be conditioned to approach arises lust, confusion, captivated, as charming, as effeminate, weakening it? Or is it legal How do super condition for the reverse phenomenon arises?

(5) Again, someone was insulting language side of the Buddha often used?  (2)   but there superpower must be conditioned to approach arises remorse, resentment, anger, resentment? Or are played coy superpower for the reverse phenomenon arises?

(6) Again, there are people who are disappointed, discouraged because ordinary language of the Blessed One?  (3) but there superpower is predestined to play to arise darkness, obscurity, lack of blind position , intellectual destruction, as dissatisfaction, not to enlightenment nirvana? Or are played coy for superpower opposite phenomenon?

(7) So does anyone hear the usual language of the Buddha are also enlightened, no? He agreed to that?but sub-human who has to hear the discourse when it is well enlightened, and analog, matricide, patricide, the murder level Arhat, Buddha guys bleeding, increased harmony out, listen Buddha also preached enlightened?

Therefore, as far as he agreed, all those people are his enlightenment ...

(8)  Andhakas:  - But he can with a stick of gold is only gold and rice fields. Also that, the language of Buddha needles can lecture the mundane law, and law does.

Th: - Use only well papaya and heaps piles of golden rice so Buddha could use ordinary language to say is both legal measures and super mundane world.

(9) According to him, ordinary language of the Buddha as mundane as legal dialogue with ordinary people, and that's when the legal trade dialogue with the saint disciple. This implied that the discourse of the Buddha needle heard by mundane consciousness when he talks about the legal world and be heard by supramundane consciousness when he said regarding the legal world. On the other hand, this also means that ordinary human understanding with wisdom, he said, was a disciple of the holy wisdom to understand, he said, it must he disagrees.

(10) A: - According to him, there is a mistake to say that the language of the Buddha needle is mundane when he said to the legal world superpower when he comes to the legal world production.But is Exalted did not ever use that language both or what? He agreed. Therefore, the notion of what he can not be rational.

(11) Again, his opinion was extended to include an acknowledgment Other: The language of a person who will become the Path when they talk about the Path. Likewise, it is not the Path and Fruit, Nirvana, Cross II predestined, physical, legal mind, the language will not be Truth.

11. ISSUES passing (Nirodhakatha)

Rate Debate:  There are two kinds of death.

According to Note:  This concept of sect  Mahimsasakas  and seconded  Andhakas , said Tuesday in Sichuan sole substrate (substrate Extinction) relate to two kill, a kill with a kill Wisdom and Wisdom no.

(1)  Theravadins: -  If he agrees that there are two kinds of killing, he also accepted the two Kill soles, 2 Suffering, 2 aprons, 2 Noble Truth, he denied such things.

Moreover, he must accept the two clinics, two secret havens 2, 2 fortifications, 2 immortal, 2 Nibbana (Nirvana concepts only in Tripitaka) but he refused. Or if he accepted two Nirvana, he must also accept there are different distinctions as the high and the low, the rough and the world, the excesses and the shortcomings - the boundaries, the division and the final boundaries of the state of Nirvana 2 - He denies this.

(2) Again, he had to accept, or not accept that the practice has no insight Removal  (patisankha ) just as the practice of Wisdom were killed there? But this does not imply the cessation of two.

(3) M. A: - It must be so, if he accepted that he would not be accepted, there must kill the practice has no practice Wisdom and Wisdom were killed there were destroyed forever?

(4) Th: - Is He accepted the practice has already destroyed by Tue quarn Noble realization? Thus, he must accept the same for the practice of Wisdom had no reason to kill well over. But he again refused.

(5) Again, the practice of Wisdom were killed there, according to him, will never be born again. And so he has to admit so to destroy the practice has no Wisdom. But he refused, so the actual kill just one, not two. END=NAM MO CAKYA MOUNI BUDDHA.( 3 TIMES ).VIETNAMESE TRANSLATE ENGLISH BY=THICH CHAN TANH.THE MIND OF ENLIGHTENMENT.WORLD VIENAMESE BUDDHIST ORDER=VIETNAMESE BUDDHIST NUN=GOLDEN LOTUS MONASTERY=AUSTRALIA,SYDNEY.28/10/2016.MHDT.